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jpingchow123
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I've read good reviews on the Ma Lin Extra Offensive or YEO, but I was wondering about the durability of this blade and whether or not polyurethane should be applied to it.
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eD27
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I want to know about this blade too. Thinking of getting one.
How is it for attacking? Cuz it says its perfect for blocking but for attacking and short games? Weight and comfort?
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GenomicsKnight
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Top ply is stained, so it tends to fade from gluing. A light coat of PU should help.
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ibupro
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YEO comes with lacquer already applied. It is not stained, the outer ply is walnut, which is dark wood.
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beeray1
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Well, Ma lin uses it. Im sure its different a bit.. but still very similar, since its much older. And look at his attacking game. Ma lin also has the best short game in the entire world.. so I think he can answer some questions.
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jpingchow123
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Compared to the Ma Lin Soft Carbon and Ma Lin Carbon how does the speed, control, and feel differ?
Also since YEO is an all wood blade is it more susceptible to damage? |
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beeray1
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all wood blades/composite blades are equally suceptable to damage. You can ding a carbon blade and it can tear into the carbon layer same as wood.
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LeRome
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it's a lil slower with a lil more control compared to ma lin carbon, but i prefer the feel of yeo over mlc, mlc has a really good feel for a carbon blade, but the tiny bit of that ping-y vibration just reminds u that it's a carbon blade. wish the yeo was a lil heavier though, the weight of the mlc was perfect. as far as susceptibility to damage goes, i don't think it matters whether it's carbon or all wood, if u hit the edge of the blade on the table it's gonna leave a lil dent
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BL: Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive Penhold
FH: DHS Skyline TG2 2.2mm BH: Nittaku Hammond 2.1-2.3mm |
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ibupro
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Weight is mid to high 80's usually. Used by Ma Lin who specializes in attacking and short game. What more can be said? It is a great blade, but the outer walnut ply is hard and fast which makes for short dwell with some rubber sheets. I use 2mm Boost TP which makes for short dwell, high speed and spin. I was using max previously which allowed for longer dwell but I found that 2mm serves me much better for quick attack and allows the speed of the blade to be put to better use. I like to attack from close to mid distance and to use strokes which make it hard to read where I intend to place the ball. Short dwell and high speed make this style very effective if your stroke supplies plenty of spin. I am using straight handle, it is squarish with flat sides which let me know very well how I have the blade angled. A little thin maybe, but I adjusted to it quickly. I love my YEO! It is a very powerful all wood blade for close and middle distance, very spinny. If you play more away from the table you will find other blades more useful I think. |
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eD27
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great. but what's the difference between the 3 ma lin blades?
cuz all the reviews i read are kinda the same for the 3
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Dafydd393
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Im' thinking of getting one myself.
@Ibupro, you say that it has short dwell time but it is able to produce large amounts of spin. Surely if it has a lower dwell time, it wil not produce as much spin?
Also how well would dawei's quattro sponge (40 Deg) work with this blade and how is looping from 2 steps back?
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Blade - Ma Lin Extra Offensive FL
Fh - Boost TC 2.0mm Bh - Boost TC 2.0mm |
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Rich215
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I got a C-pen YEO for a friend couple weeks ago....my choices for weight were from an amazing 76g to 86g. Seems like a big difference for some reason, so I opted for a 80g one.
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ibupro
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Read it however you see fit, your experience might not match my own; the dwell is *comparatively* short, the spin is very high. The walnut is a hard top ply but also makes good spin. This places a premium on correct timing and contact point while rewarding by allowing deceptive placement and providing a shot that goes rapidly from the blade to the table. The power of the Boost TP gives the ball sustained speed and is very spinny in its own right. TP is great match-up with the YEO for me, I was using TC on my Gatien Extra, but I was immediately convinced by the YEO and TP. Switching the rubbers to the other blade did not work well for me. I believe dwell has more to do with control than with spin. I accelerate the blade quickly and too much dwell affects my shot making in a negative fashion. Players who accelerate at a more controlled rate would benefit from more dwell I think. |
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tdragon
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You need the dwell time, so you could feel the paddle pulling the ball to generate more spin on loop. even the blade has a lot of dwell time, but it does not mean that it would be easy to control since you may not chop or push correctly if the blade is OFF or OFF+.
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ibupro
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So you are saying that world champion Schlager with his fast carbon blade and byrce hard did not have enough dwell time to feel the paddle pulling the ball to generate more spin on loop? And that Schlager may not chop or push correctly? Something does not sound right here |
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jpingchow123
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so how bout the YEO?
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tdragon
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jpingchow123
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It's for penhold so, yay! Speaking of penhold, for people that play that way, do you prefer having the rubber up the the handle or leaving space for fingers? |
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tdragon
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A lot of Shakehand player like me playing YEO too
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jpingchow123
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What's your setup? |
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tdragon
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Several people have reported YEO playing well with Stiga Boost TC/TP and Tenergy 05.
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goldfish
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Tenergy 05 works very well with YEO.
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Dafydd393
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How is looping with heavy spin with this blade? I'm still unsure about how much dwell time the blade has, anybody?
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Blade - Ma Lin Extra Offensive FL
Fh - Boost TC 2.0mm Bh - Boost TC 2.0mm |
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ibupro
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Sorry about the confusion. Plenty of dwell time imo. I was comparing the YEO with 2mm TP vs 2.3mm TP, and with the Gatien Extra with 2.3mm TC. I hope you would agree that 2mm TP on YEO would allow less dwell than max TC on a GE. 2.1mm Tenergy 05 has longer dwell on the YEO than TP 2mm imo. What I found was that 2mm TP allowed me to use the speed of the hard outer ply on drives while the thicker sponge gave more dwell. |
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chocolate
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Would this blade loop well with gambler outlaw 2.2?
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Sallom89
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YEO is Ma Lin extra offensive or what guys? sorry I don't get it :P!
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Dafydd393
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Yes
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Blade - Ma Lin Extra Offensive FL
Fh - Boost TC 2.0mm Bh - Boost TC 2.0mm |
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dauntless
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I have a 87g YEO that is ST handle. I am probably going to put Gambler Outlaw on it to test. Any thoughts on how this combo should play?
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Totoro
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YEO is the shorthand form of - Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive. |
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Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
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