My review on DHS Neo setting (updated)

I refuse to use water-based glue.  I'm still using Elmer's Rubber Cement with good results.  It has VOCs, but I don't play many tournaments so it doesn't matter.  Even if it did, I leave the rubber on the blade for a its life and it would be weeks, maybe months.  The VOCs would have aired out long before the racket was measured. 

Keep in mind that the actual manufacture of rubber REQUIRES VOCs.  They are there when fresh rubber is purchased.  If water-based glue was used on new rubber, the racket would not pass ENEZ or ELIZE-2 tests.

cagaragesales wrote: You can't remove the sticky stuff... LoL You can remove the white plastic sheet. I'm sure that's what it means. I've already played with the H2, H3, and TG3, reviews coming shortly on my website/livejournal. Will be playing with TG2 shortly.

I agree, those chinese players misunderstand the DHS announcement.

sticky stuff?
this reminds me of blue whale II factory tuned...
hope this is not just another factory tuned rubber because we know that factory tuning does not last long.
I would like to see how neo plays after 3 or 4 months of use.

There was a post on pingpang.info that said the sticky stuff on the sponge needs to be taken off before gluing. Source is rather reliable because the poster is a moderator. I might have to tear it off on my H3 factory tuned as well.

It says that the correct way of using is to remove the glue layer at the back

We need to get Mr Squiggle on the job......... an elephant with a yoyo..... standing on one leg

http://www.bokett.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?boardid=69&id=186581&page=&star=2

i agree completely about the less tacky part.

haggisv wrote: Nice review and pics ttrubberman!IMO When it comes to discussing how tacky a rubber is, it's pretty meaningless when it comes to DHS. Although the quality of their rubbers is quite good, the quality control has not been (at least not in the past). I've gone through numerous batches of the their commercial rubbers (H2/H3, tg23/tg3), and some are MUCH tackier than others. I agree with other that H2 is usually tackier than H3, but I've seen exeptions to this as well. I do hope that these new ones are more consistant (and I'm keen to try them myself too), but you can't judge the quality control on a single batch... time will tell. the quality looks good though!BTW The trend (from most Chinese manufacturers) is to make them less tacky. The reason is, and i happen to agree with this, is that you can generally get MORE spin of a loop with a mildly tacky or grippy rubber, than what you can with a very tacky rubber. Since the loop is the most popular offensive stroke in TT, this is important. Just my opinion of course

The best thing about the speed glue era was that you could take a cheap, HIGH SPIN and HIGH CONTROL Chinese rubber (729 Super FX for example) and get it playing fast enough to be dangerous.

And while Tenergy is a weird animal suited for high level play, it's success has more to do with how much SPIN it can create at reasonable speeds than how fast it is.

New generation rubbers that fail to create enough spin will result in shots that go LONG LONG LONG and missed loopkills.

haggisv wrote: Nice review and pics ttrubberman! IMO When it comes to discussing how tacky a rubber is, it's pretty meaningless when it comes to DHS. Although the quality of their rubbers is quite good, the quality control has not been (at least not in the past). I've gone through numerous batches of the their commercial rubbers (H2/H3, tg23/tg3), and some are MUCH tackier than others. I agree with other that H2 is usually tackier than H3, but I've seen exeptions to this as well. I do hope that these new ones are more consistant (and I'm keen to try them myself too), but you can't judge the quality control on a single batch... time will tell. the quality looks good though! BTW The trend (from most Chinese manufacturers) is to make them less tacky. The reason is, and i happen to agree with this, is that you can generally get MORE spin of a loop with a mildly tacky or grippy rubber, than what you can with a very tacky rubber. Since the loop is the most popular offensive stroke in TT, this is important. Just my opinion of course

nah, even prov and nat versions became more on teh grippy side. when you see wang liqin bounce the ball before service, it doesnt stick to the rubber at all. it bounces like a euro or jap rubber. i am still in love with rubbers that can pick up the ball because i can make insane spins on loop kills. right now the ball is way faster but 2nd bounce is too weak to end it.

Nice review and pics ttrubberman!

IMO When it comes to discussing how tacky a rubber is, it's pretty meaningless when it comes to DHS. Although the quality of their rubbers is quite good, the quality control has not been (at least not in the past). I've gone through numerous batches of the their commercial rubbers (H2/H3, tg23/tg3), and some are MUCH tackier than others. I agree with other that H2 is usually tackier than H3, but I've seen exeptions to this as well.

I do hope that these new ones are more consistant (and I'm keen to try them myself too), but you can't judge the quality control on a single batch... time will tell. the quality looks good though!

BTW The trend (from most Chinese manufacturers) is to make them less tacky. The reason is, and i happen to agree with this, is that you can generally get MORE spin of a loop with a mildly tacky or grippy rubber, than what you can with a very tacky rubber. Since the loop is the most popular offensive stroke in TT, this is important. Just my opinion of course

that was two seconds 6 months ago :P
but maybe the force upwards is what making it drop that fast.

nicefrog wrote: The H2 that I pulled off three weeks ago still holds a ball for two seconds and it was on the blade for 12 months and used once a week (I only play once a week), so the tack was still the same as when it was new. But I do cover them with plastic covers between each game and the entire blade and rubbers are wraped and sealed between seasons. I think the sponge had started to give out, since the new one feels a little better but the topsheet is still perfect

Thanks

thanks for review ... but doesn't help much without comparison of speed, spin, glue effect and other factors with commonly kjnown rubbers.

all reviews look the same without these.

The H2 that I pulled off three weeks ago still holds a ball for two seconds and it was on the blade for 12 months and used once a week (I only play once a week), so the tack was still the same as when it was new. But I do cover them with plastic covers between each game and the entire blade and rubbers are wraped and sealed between seasons. I think the sponge had started to give out, since the new one feels a little better but the topsheet is still perfect