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    Posted: 07/22/2009 at 1:29pm

My review on DHS Neo setting (updated)

July 22nd, 2009

Tonight, I will first try the Neo rubber, not Hurricane 3 but Skyline 3, it is because the hurricane 3 are all sold and I cannot keep one for myself! I didn�t sell Skyline 3 and I got one from the DHS supplier. I wish more stock will be available soon.

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Here is my review:

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  •  655 Hurricane King, 84g, 5.8mm thickness.
  • Forehand: Red Neo Skyline 3, 40degree 2.2mm, DHS water glue.
  • Backhand: CJ8000 Beijing Team, 36degree 2.2mm, Speed glue 2 layers.

Review

Forehand: The speed is fast, the neo skyline3 is so bouncy, the surface is a little tacky, the spin is good. The batting sound is so loud. I can feel that the skin wood is hard so that the ball bounce away very fast, it�s quite different from the 656 Hurricane Hao.

Mid distance looping: I need to adjust a bit on the angle of stroke, more upward and now okay.  The ball is fast, it works like it is speed glue! The most important point is that the looping is so good, easy to loop, and the curve is even better than my BW2. Better, not better to loop, but the curve is more difficult for the opponent to deal with, this is what the old DHS rubber can do before!

Backhand: Push is easy, powerful enough. The blade is very good in hand feeling, no vibration but I can feel the ball quite well. Therefore, backhand defence is even more easy than my current setting. About RBH, it�s fast, theCJ8000 is spiny and the HK give it more power.

Conclusion

DHS Neo series is the true solution in the post glue-ban era, the ball is so fast and spiny, it is actually give you the same feeling as the old DHS rubber with speed glue! If you�re DHS die hard fan and now still gluing your old Hurricane 3, it�s time for you to go a step foreward. The Neo is for you.

655 Hurricane King is still the HK but now more power and even more stable, no vibration but better hand feeling, it�s powerful! Good for near to middle range looping.

656 Hurricane Hao is designed for 2-sides looping, now the forehand is more power, it should be ideal with using Neo rubber for forehand, powerful spiny looping.


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Thanks for the review!

So here's my question

You say the TG3 neo is slightly tacky, but albert said the TG3 neo is tackier than his H3 neo. 

So exactly how tacky are we speaking about?  Can it pick up the ball?



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Thanks rubberman, I'll post my review of the H2's up once they arrive. I'm guessing they will take about a week Hongkong-Australia, So with some luck that maybe Tuesday night

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Originally posted by nick911sc nick911sc wrote:



You say the TG3 neo is slightly tacky, but albert said the TG3 neo is tackier than his H3 neo.



I am confused as well???Confused

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Don't worry I'll have mine soon, if it's a total fail I'll let you know the truth :)

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Originally posted by nicefrog nicefrog wrote:

I'll post my review of the H2's up once they arrive.


I can't wait to see it...LOL

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If anyone has an accurate scale....let us know about uncut sheet weights for any of the NEO DHS rubbers.  Thanks. 


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very nice ttrubberman,

does the sponge feel springy? can u compare it with bw2 and T05 in term of "springyness"

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i dont think any of the newer DHS rubbers can pick up the ball anymore;i have lost interest for that reason. late 07, 08 09 rubbers can be considered grippy in my eyes
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That would be nice to know, since I don't like springyness :), I hope they still feel "dead" as some guys call them, or perhaps half dead:P with just a little bit of life about them, a bit like the blue sponge is but a little more alive than that, that's what I'm hoping for

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dude, whats the difference between the old tg3 and this one including the topsheet and sponge?
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Originally posted by zwu168 zwu168 wrote:

i dont think any of the newer DHS rubbers can pick up the ball anymore;i have lost interest for that reason. late 07, 08 09 rubbers can be considered grippy in my eyes


my 07, 08 are tacky and can hold ball. anyone whoever met me and saw my rubber can tell you how tacky mine is... have 09 too but haven't opened it...
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Originally posted by nick911sc nick911sc wrote:

Thanks for the review!

So here's my question

You say the TG3 neo is slightly tacky, but albert said the TG3 neo is tackier than his H3 neo. 

So exactly how tacky are we speaking about?  Can it pick up the ball?





Yes, it is slightly tacky, it cannot pick up a ball.
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Originally posted by bruno_ar2002 bruno_ar2002 wrote:

very nice ttrubberman,

does the sponge feel springy? can u compare it with bw2 and T05 in term of "springyness"

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It is not as springy as german rubber, but you will not feel "lack of power".

The feeling are different. For german rubber, you can geel that the rubber is soft, elastic, the ball like bounce away. For the DHS rubber, you can feel the sponge is energetic, the time in and out the sponge is very short, just like it is glued.

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Originally posted by rokphish rokphish wrote:

Originally posted by zwu168 zwu168 wrote:

i dont think any of the newer DHS rubbers can pick up the ball anymore;i have lost interest for that reason. late 07, 08 09 rubbers can be considered grippy in my eyes


my 07, 08 are tacky and can hold ball. anyone whoever met me and saw my rubber can tell you how tacky mine is... have 09 too but haven't opened it...


I think DHS will not make that "tacky" rubber any more, as they need more speed with a reasonable spin the the trend.
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Originally posted by nicefrog nicefrog wrote:

That would be nice to know, since I don't like springyness :), I hope they still feel "dead" as some guys call them, or perhaps half dead:P with just a little bit of life about them, a bit like the blue sponge is but a little more alive than that, that's what I'm hoping for



You can feel the "dead" feeling in the old Hurricane 3 without glue. But for the Neo, you can feel it is energetic, this is my first time to get this feeling from DHS product without gluing.
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i might just wait for friend who will go back to China during OCt...
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i'm gonna have a look at my friend's 09... i'm pretty sure it's still tacky...
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imho a rubber that can pick up and hold a 40mm ball for more than a couple of seconds is "too" tacky. My new H2's will still pick one up for a couple of seconds, that's more than enough tack. I wont mine if the NEO's are less tacky than that so long as the texture of them is a little grippy to make up for it

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Originally posted by ttrubberman ttrubberman wrote:


You can feel the "dead" feeling in the old Hurricane 3 without glue. But for the Neo, you can feel it is energetic, this is my first time to get this feeling from DHS product without gluing.
 
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Originally posted by nicefrog nicefrog wrote:


imho a rubber that can pick up and hold a 40mm ball for more than a couple of seconds is "too" tacky. My new H2's will still pick one up for a couple of seconds, that's more than enough tack. I wont mine if the NEO's are less tacky than that so long as the texture of them is a little grippy to make up for it


When I first bought BW2 it picked up the ball for 3 seconds I think, but now it can dream of doing that feat again :P
do you think DHS tack stays longer ?
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The H2 that I pulled off three weeks ago still holds a ball for two seconds and it was on the blade for 12 months and used once a week (I only play once a week), so the tack was still the same as when it was new. But I do cover them with plastic covers between each game and the entire blade and rubbers are wraped and sealed between seasons. I think the sponge had started to give out, since the new one feels a little better but the topsheet is still perfect

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ttrubberman,

is it faster than bw2 or slower? the 39 degree is equal to the 38 bw2 in terms of hardness?

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thanks for review ... but doesn't help much without comparison of speed, spin, glue effect and other factors with commonly kjnown rubbers.

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Originally posted by nicefrog nicefrog wrote:


The H2 that I pulled off three weeks ago still holds a ball for two seconds and it was on the blade for 12 months and used once a week (I only play once a week), so the tack was still the same as when it was new. But I do cover them with plastic covers between each game and the entire blade and rubbers are wraped and sealed between seasons. I think the sponge had started to give out, since the new one feels a little better but the topsheet is still perfect


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Originally posted by Sallom89 Sallom89 wrote:

Originally posted by nicefrog nicefrog wrote:


The H2 that I pulled off three weeks ago still holds a ball for two seconds and it was on the blade for 12 months and used once a week (I only play once a week), so the tack was still the same as when it was new. But I do cover them with plastic covers between each game and the entire blade and rubbers are wraped and sealed between seasons. I think the sponge had started to give out, since the new one feels a little better but the topsheet is still perfect


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Here I posted this 6 months ago when the rubber was 6 months old

http://stashbox.org/448283/h2tacktest_x264.avi

It was still the same 3 weeks ago, it seems 2 seconds was quite the exageration :P but anyway you can see for yourself that it is tacky

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that was two seconds 6 months ago :P
but maybe the force upwards is what making it drop that fast.
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So how is the factory tuned different from NEO?

Does NEO sponge have a white paper covering like the factory tuned National/Provincial?
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