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Hamm1
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I am posting this review as it discusses a newly modified blade by Charlie that has some similarities to the 9-10-9 blade. < ="text/">
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I have recently been playing with a Quad Trip ++ produced by Blades By Charlie. Charlie is a master craftsman who takes pride in each paddle he produces. He has been making innovative, quality blades for over 40 years. I am an offensive player and have found this paddle to be a great benefit to my game. This blade has four layers of instrument grade cypress with 3 layers of nano carbon. The result is a solid, responsive, powerful blade that also has great touch and feel for the ball. I am using Evolution ELS rubber (2.1 FH and 1.9 BH). This blade has a very large sweet spot and produces powerful shots, in addition to well controlled spin. When playing against choppers, I find that I am able to precisely place shots and counter-attack when the opportunity presents itself. When hitting from well back from the table, I am able to hit topspin shots that accelerate off the paddle and force my opponent into a defensive position. As a final added benefit, there is a distinctive sound when the ball is hit well. I am having fun as I continue to discover the improvements to my game that are possible using this paddle. |
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the_theologian
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whoa whoa whoa.... not hardly... hahaha.... don't you see that the 9-10-9 is still in my signature?! the 9-10-9 holds the no. 1 spot for me in the composite blade category. it might also have my favorite feeling of all blades. but at my level, i'm simply playing better and developing my backhand more quickly with the Expert the Ross Leidy blade was a most generous gift from a friend
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JimT
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Yummy. But I can see you already abandoned 9-10-9 in favor of some other blades. Traitor!
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still hunting for my camera with macro setting as I settle back into the States... but in the meantime, here's some low-res pics of my new 9-10-9 which just arrived
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Sound like it's attack 2. Mine is ~159x149, and the Handle is ~101mm (it's hard to measure the exact length LOL). |
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the_theologian
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oh, hmm, the handle is about 103mm... guess it's a hybrid
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mhnh007
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Check the handle. I think Attack 1 has a much longer handle (according to the diagram anyway).
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hmm, i see JimT wrote AttackII as I was "composing".... is that what you had ordered Jim?
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the_theologian
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(going to measure it...) it's hard to measure right now with my transferred rubbers as they are, but I'm getting about 148x157, which would be the Attack 1
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JimT
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Aattack2, if i am not mistaken... I could be though. My Ultimas are Attack2, that I know for sure.
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What shape type is this 9-10-9? Is it attack1, attack2 or something else?
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the_theologian
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JimT, please stop making me want an Ultima, it's not good for my budget
and btw, this 9-10-9 is literally the only blade Franq couldn't talk me out of (and he tried!) (I officially spread the EJ virus here in Kuwait)
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JimT
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Indeed Charlie makes really good and comfortable handles - my palm is also relatively large, I am 6'1" ... - and handles on his 9-10-9 and Ultima series blades are perfect for me. I add a very thin layer of soft thin grip tape (Wilson Overgrip Pro Soft) to avoid slipping and the result is great. |
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the_theologian
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man I love the handle. prior to discovering it, my favorite handle was on the burn off- flared, and prior to that, i was debating if i needed to go to a straight handle. i have wide palms and on most flared handles, the lowermost flared portion ergonomically clashes with my hand, especially when rotating from forehand to backhand. this handle is my favorite |
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the_theologian I can understand that. My Tricarbon has a handle just like that, same shape and I find it to be quite comfy with a nice wide thumb rest. What do you think of it??
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lol, welcome to the forum Franq. very appropriate response as I'm sure you're feeling troubled that this was the only blade you couldn't pry out of my hands
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Franq
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Ugh!!
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the_theologian
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my friend, usually when it comes to blades, money talks.... but not this time
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Can I make you an offer on that 9-10-9 please!!!!!!! Better still name your price!!! Really a nice blade
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JimT
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Humidity changes and with it the weight can jump 1 g up and down easily - so mine was 89, your 87 - the "real" weight is probably 88 then |
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the_theologian
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Just wanted to state that I am the proud owner of this very blade reviewed by JimT a little over 2 years ago. Furthermore, it is the greatest blade of all time. . I personally refer to it as, "The blade of blades." Strangely, last night I weighed it, and it came in at 87.4 grams.... ... maybe it's burned off some calories since it was created? As you may have noticed in other threads, I like this blade so much, I'm having Charlie make a duplicate |
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Yeah, and the feel was just not quite for me. It's a very nice blade, but I need something with more flex to loop with at my level.
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JimT
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Saw you selling the blade. Turned out a bit too fast for you, maybe? Korbel with Srivers sounds like a slightly slower and controlled combo, but you could put some controlling rubbers on 9-10-9 and use it that way. One thing that sometimes makes me play Nexy Color instead of 9-10-9 is that NC is a bit more flexible and "hugs" the ball more. So for the players who prefer a flatter game with blocking and hitting and very nice short game control, 9-10-9 is just the ticket. I loved it with short pips on BH. |
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I bought a 9-10-9 off a tester from this site and received it this Monday. It certainly is much thicker and more solid than any other blades I've tried, but I love it. At first I was doing great, although that was probably the honeymoon phase. I soon had trouble controlling it with IQUL 35 2.2 on it so I tried my renanos bright hard and found it much easier, most likely due to the more predictable nature of the harder sponge. I'm picking up a couple chinese rubbers a friend sent me from the post office tomorrow to try out and see if I like them. It could just be that I prefer harder sponge than the 35, but at the moment I don't have the resources to find out yet, but soon I'll get it.
As an amateur review of this blade, it is very excellent and I don't think I'll be needing to try any other blades anytime soon. The rest has been covered more thoroughly and with more experience by previous posters. |
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Glad you liked it. I kept it on BH there, but replaced FH rubber with LKT Rapid Speed 2.2 - for better control over table and extra spin. It's a tad slower but hits good still... Also (about the wallet) try using Palio Macro Era 47.5 instead of Tenergy. I played with both and PME is better almost in every aspect (price included), but mostly for me the important thing is that PME is way less sensitive to the incoming spin than Tenergy. Read my review about PME and comparison to T-05 and T-64 which I just posted today. |
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@JimT : Thank you for the tip. Outlaw works much better on 9-10-9 than anything else I've tried so far. It's low throw, fast without being a speed demon though. I like the "crispy feel" it provides and my wallet likes the price. I took it in 2.2mm and it does the match perfectly. Closed case !
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Yes, I think you should give them a try - they are definitely lower throw than Tenergy, faster on drives and blocks, no noticeable catapult effect (not sure if you want that or not). Less spin but that's fine in my book as they react to the incoming spin much less that Tenergy. The only problem for me is fragility but I am told they have made it better with the latest "3rd" generation. |
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Dear Charlie,
by no means I'm saying you were wrong and I am right ! I am just saying that, according to my taste and habbit, baracuda doesn't fit my bill with 9-10-9. It's just a matter of personal preferences, you see...
I find your blade beautiful and fantastic but it's providing a high arc , which is more than OK to me provided I can find a low throw rubber. I find baracuda to be also high throw and also a bit too slow for my offensiv game. So high throw blade + high throw rubber = balls out.
Xtend hs is OK. Low throw and fast enough. Thing is that it's light ! Yeah, I know, everybody is looking for lightness these days, but my all setup is now under 170gr (168 to be precise...). I miss some power. With tenergy or baracuda, your blade feels wonderfully balanced at 178gr.
So either I'm adding some edge tape or I'm finding heavier tensors.
I've got a pair of Joola express one waiting around that I should try too on that blade. Should be OK. I'll keep you posted.
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hi jcdi, i've been thinking how could i have been so wrong? i still play with
Baracuda, even went from 2.0 to max and play well with it. i can stay with the Tenergy users and the sales hype on it about durability and accuracy is still incredulating to me! i played with Gambler's Outlaw 2 years ago and loved it.. the juniors at the club all used it until splitting, delam and broken pips started on the players who trained alot. make sure you get the upgraded newer version (added a taste of synthetic rubber (i hear). i still have players who are economizing buy the Outlaw, but i love my Baracuda. i may have figured out our lack of concord. i play with 1.5 563 on my b/h and the weight for all is 153 grams. the 9-10-9 is faster with more weight. i just didn't tell you, sorry! a friend borrowed my backup blade to see what the 9-10-9 is all about for himself and put Donic Coppa Platin on both sides, then beat everyone there. he thought it was special that he could play so well without having to get used to it. i have been testing an 8-9-8, to see if it plays better with both sides inverted and heavy like Tenergy. we'll see, thanks, charlie |
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Outlaws...? Thank you, it might be an option. I am still searching the perfect match with this blade (remember ? I'm a "perfect match" searcher....). I've tried Tenergy 64/05 = trow angle way too high. Baracuda = Even worst (sorry Charlie, we disagree on that one) , too slow, too high. (off topic : Baracuda on Mazunov is fantastic...)
Xtend hs max is the best bet I've reached so far. It's low throw and fast enough, but I'm still lacking a bit of "tenergylike" power, seewhatImean ?
In short, I want something like tenergy 64 but with a very low throw. Does that exist ? Would Outlaws be the way to go ?
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