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JimT
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I have to agree that AN handle on old Stiga Ulf Karlsson blade is probably the best I ever played.
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ejmaster
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There is good vibration with feedback and there is disturbance vibration. 2 different things.
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EJ Club.
MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood. |
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Imago
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93 g with Chinese rubbers (Haifu or Neo Pro) is almost 200 grams.
Vibration is feedback, not disturbance. |
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ejmaster
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Hi peter,
In 1997 in the Manchester world singles championship wang liquin played with a stiga off classic master handle and some years before.
That was my main blade for some years and keep on being one of the best blades i have. I have some pictures and testing comparison in my picassa album. those old stiga off have little to do with the modern off classic.
And i also played with the old stiga allround.
The big surprise is when i find the sn465 made by Palatinus. even better feeling without disturbing vibration than an empowered old stiga allround.
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EJ Club.
MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood. |
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peter79
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I saw the OSP Ultimate which is 7 ply blade is very thin. The thickness is 0.1 mm thicker than Virtuoso. 5.7mm vs 5.8 mm.
How is the 7 ply compared to the 5 ply for looping? Is it still good enough to loop? If it's only the speed diff, I might consider to try the 7 ply too. I found Clipper isn't for me, too stiff and not a good blade to loop. |
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
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kelvinyoong
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It would be very interesting to find out how the OSP Virtuoso compares to the Nexy Color.
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Andrzej Grubba AN
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Peter C
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Ejmaster
I agree the old 1970's Stiga's are some of the best classic blades to play with. The good news is some of the hand made blades available on the market, from the likes of : 1) Palatinus, Old Stiga 2) Ulmo blades 3) Tischtennis Manufactur.de are in my opinion the equal of those old Stiga's in the way they feel and play. I learnt to loop with a 1976 Offensive wood , with 1.5mm Mark V and I've also been lucky enough to play quite a bit with two 1970's Allround classics in recent years as well. Sadly the offensive classic and offensive classic WRB, that I've tried in the last two years were decent blades; but didn't feel as good to play with, as my old 1976 Offensive Wood did. |
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peter79
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Ejmaster, have you tried the Virtuoso? could you please compare Virtuoso with Acoustic/Violin/Korbel?
Interms of Speed, control and feel. |
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
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ejmaster
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People keep buying what they heard about.
About Palatinus wood blades, most of the impressions related to quality and feeling in the sense of old stigas in the post above, were told before. It is difficult to find better classic wood blades in the market. And it is a pleasure to play with those blades.
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EJ Club.
MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood. |
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takacslaci
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I've tried OSP Expert and Ultimate for some hours of training, with a pair of Tenergy 05 and with a pair of Joola Express X-plode . The Expert is relative flexible, and is good for "normal", and "special" topspin movement players too. It had a high throw topspin with Joola Express X-plode, and spinny topspin. I did't find it good with Tenergy, in my opinion, it is not rigid enough for it. With X-plode, or with glued Sriver-Fx, for example, you can use your wrist a lot, the blade will respond, and do what you've imagined.
With the ultimate, this is just the opposite. The Ultimate is rigid, not flexible, but really fast, if you hit the ball hard. In the first minutes my shortening strokes had gone into the net. In some ways this blade was better for Tenergy, than with the X-plode, in my opinion, but it was a bit heavy. You must have really good footwork, if you want to play with the Ultimate, and you must be brave in offense. Than, you can hit very effective shots and point-winning topspins with good spin. Both blade are good in their playing style category. |
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fzolesz
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Hi everyone
This my first post here and I liked to read yours. Because of Palatinus blades I start to comment here as well as in hungarian MyTT www.ppko.hu ,pllsystem's page. ;) what about me?I've been playing for 15 years,spin oriented mid distance looper, or close to the table hitter if needed :) I like topsin rallies far from the table.. So after glue ban decided to change my old Johannson stiga to a faster blade like most of players did. I Have tried more than 50 blades (energy wood,Donic WSC,TBALC,TBS,Korbel,Fuga ...etc.) for shorter or longer period, and after some BTY classic(Forte, primorac) I found a BOMB :) This is palatinus blade!! I have had three before in shorter time but could'nt made a deal them, because i don't like walnut wood (offensive stiga replica) nor koto (mentioned Kosiba 's blade) as much as Limba. I had some ideas what am looking for but I was informed there will be some new models soon the OSP standards...I've been waiting and i got what i really wanted. I've tested the three models Expert,Virtuoso and Ultimate.I decided to use OFF- further. So I've been using my own Virtuoso ST for almost 2 months. These is suits me well, I've tried it with Donic Coppa gold,Joola Ph�nix and T05(oil tuned) and now with T64. It has crisp feeling and good sweet spot with tenergy for me. I can loop with lots of spin, but I can made hard topspins as well far from the table as well. There is no problem to make short receives or flick. If you are topspin oriented player not just a hitter but with lots of spin Virtouso is yours. The most important for me these blades have the feel of oldstiga's but matches with the modern style of TT. I like the feedbacks it doesn't vibrate it kicks tothe ball a hard if you want but it is still delicate if you shorten. All of these OSP blades dropp,or block shots are excellent and also unpleasant for your partner. About three months earlier I took a record with playing the OSP expert with tenergy05/coppa gold...I uploaded it to a videosite...if You want I can show it later ;) I wrote longer tests for palatinus and pllsystem later may you can read them on the website. I hope my post has helped..but just feel free to ask ;) |
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OSP VIRTUOSO AC (L=159 mm)( Aramid/Carbon)
FH: Tenergy 80 BH: Tenergy 80 Boosted with Falco long OSP Blades |
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Gr8GrZ
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I meant 1 to 2 weeks.
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PLLsystem
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We have been testing for 1.5 year. Just ask what are you interested in? |
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PLLsystem
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thethinker
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No offense but if the testing is just a few days (half week) I for one don't know if I can tell anything too much about the blade yet. If you mean one or two weeks...
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PLLsystem
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Virtuoso is based on the old Stiga combination Limba-Limba-Samba. The allround + racket got dark limba to upper ply called Expert
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kelvinyoong
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The quality of the Virtuoso looks very good especially with the AN handle.
What type of woods are used for the Virtuoso and the unnamed All Round Plus blade? |
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tiehwen
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Any Blade Maker bothers to take their time, effort & $$$$$ to design/craft a handle like Ulf Carlsson Anatomic really deserves my praise and respect. I as a matter of fact have tried a lotta Anatomic handled blades, so far only Stiga has, IMHO, consistently made really really comfortable ones and Butterfly to a certain extent does a fabulous job as well, esp. that of thicker SC and Photino but for their thinner blades like TBS, TB series, I think these need to be "bulked" up a bit.
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takacslaci
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This "Virtuoso" is really good! I've tried it only for a minute with Baracuda 2.0 both sides, but it was really very good! The feeling is similar to the Primorac off-, but this is better!
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I have some ideas about Virtuso at present time,yet I haven't t used it all that much.Lately a lot of people have been coming to play so we had very limited time at the table each time.I am very pleased with workmanship and design of Virtuoso.I have a sheet of Joola GP and Stiga Mendo MP attached to the blade.With a rating of OFF-,this blade has more power/speed than some conventional 5 ply blades.Pictures and short video are coming..
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PLLsystem
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handle dimensions
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PLLsystem
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Here you are |
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PLLsystem
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Thanks for registering. Our website on OSP rackets will be launched in few days.. Thanks for your patience. |
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holda
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PeterC,thank you for your sharing this info.
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Gr8GrZ
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Peter you the man!
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Peter C
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The Virtuoso is a well balanced 5.7mm thick, offensive minus 5 ply blade; weighing around 86-88 grams. It's one of three standard handmade blades, made by Oldstiga; in their OSP range.
With regard to build quality; it's a handmade blade built by a master craftsman and built to a higher standard than mass produced blades. There are also some nice touch's; which you appreciate, when you get to play with it. The shoulders have been rounded off, which is something that the twiddlers who tried it, appreciated. The rounded straight handle is solid; very comfortable in the hand and has a light coat of varnish on it, which helps prevent the penetration of sweat into the handle. Handle dimensions are close to the Stiga Peter handle, with the exception of the chamfer at the top of the handle, which is slightly bigger; than the chamfer on the Peter handle of my 6.8mm Clipper wood. As a result, I find it more comfortable in the hand, than the Clipper Wood's peter handle. So how does the Virtuoso play? The bounce test revealed it has a better feel to it than any modern Stiga I've played in the last few years; which isn't a surprise, as it's described as playing like the old Stiga woods and it definitely lives up to that tag. The Virtuoso is like a newer version of those old Stiga's, with the same good feel; but built to a higher standard and designed for use with Tenergy and other modern rubbers. It's a versatile blade and I must admit, i do like the way this blade feels and plays. it is fun to play with. If I had to compare it to blades people are familiar with, I'd say it possesses the good control, of the Samsonov Alpha and Xiom Fuga, but with a better feel and a better overall performance too. True it will cost you more than an equivalent mass produced blade; but you get what you pay for; i.e. a high quality hand made offensive minus blade, that has a great feel to it and delivers where it really matters,; i.e. in the way it plays. p.s. The other two blades that make up the OSP range are: 1) a 5.4mm 5 ply allround plus blade; around 85 grams, which i don't know the name of and only have basic details of. 2) the Ultimate, which is a 5.9mm thick 7 ply offensive blade weighing around 90 grams or more. I would describe it as a modern take on the classic 6 mm thick Clipper Wood and designed for use with Tenergy and other modern rubbers. The Ultimate I have weighs 94 grams and it's a more versatile blade; than either of my modern 6.8mm Clipper Woods. Whilst I think the modern Clipper Wood is a good blade; it's not the equal of the Ultimate; when it comes to feel, build quality or performance; particularly when looping. I've always considered the Donic Persson Powerplay Senso V1, a better looping blade than the Clipper Wood and the Ultimate in my opinion, outperforms that blade too. Why? because it performs better with Chinese rubber like TG3 Neo than the Donic blade does. Like the Virtuoso , the Ultimate is a pleasure to play with too and if I was to choose between them, I'll probably settle on the Ultimate as it is better suited to my game. Either way, the Virtuoso and Ultimate both have a lot to offer those who are prepared to pay the extra, to own and enjoy playing with a quality hand made blade. Edited by Peter C - 07/14/2010 at 12:53pm |
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holda
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Gr8GrZ
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Go to their webpage and register to view the offferings.
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holda
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Hello, Gr8GrZ.
Do you have some comments about this blade?How long have you used it and which rubbers,please? |
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doraemon
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OK, you meant that OSP Virtuoso or other OSP products are not displayed yet in their website. It will be cool if I can see pictures of them. Anyway, thank you for your info.
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