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    Posted: 12/16/2011 at 11:35pm
Anyways, I like Mars II a lot, but I'd rather get a 41 and then write a proper review. Probably will have to actually buy it at ttxonline.com (they didn't answer yet to my request for a "review-donation" Smile) - they sell it cheaper at some Chinese webstores but there you usually cannot choose hardness and thickness.
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i'm completely confused with galaxy. i was never good at planetory systems... 

and the way they kept launching the planets with little difference and then planet IIs......mars mercury neptune venus and all... i don't know which ones i tried and which i didn't. Wacko

it seems every batch they produce... they decide a new batch number and a new name. Disapprove

yeah thats a good sales technique to us gullible EJs... but i'm fed up.. and i have started to dislike galaxy... may be i will move to a different 'super cluster'. 
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Just played an entire session with Mars II 39 (cut to the regular SH Btfy sized blade weighed about 50 g - mid-heavy I would say, certainly heavier than most of my rubber, but not by much. Palio Blitz is about 46 g, my PME 47.5 about 43-44, and if I cut it to the slightly smaller size of my BBC Ultima then I get about 48 g).

It doesn't feel like 39 degs - more like 37 so it was certainly more controllable and softer in blocks and hits than PME 47.5. A bit spinnier too. I liked it more than Moon Pro - it feels closer to Euro-Japanese rubbers but with nice spin and control.

But I feel I should try a slightly harder version - namely 41 which hopefully will feel and play like 39 DHS scale. I guess I will contact Jason (ttxonline) and see if they could send me one for review.
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Mine is 44 grams, cut to avalox/regular size... Pretty light..Smile
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I am also bound to order a 2.0 - but @ 41*.

How much are they cut?

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I played 2 matches with Mars 2 33 degree, 2.0 mm.
I like it a lot. Easy to loop underspin, easier than using Mercury 2. It is less sensitive to incoming spin. Sponge is just like moon and sun, very jello-ish feel, like tenergy. I like the sponge quite a bit, it doesn't feel dead like most chinese tacky rubbers.
It's pretty fast, way faster than sun and moon. Tad bit faster than M2. Control is nice too, I don't miss a lot on my loops, the only drawback is if M2 has spin of 8.5, Mars 2 has spin of 8 at most.
 
I can see why they relate it to T64, having used T64 many times in the past, thought the throw angle is nowhere as high as T64, at least the feel and speed is close.
My loops were strange.. Not as spinny, but more flat/dead, if that makes sense, harder for my friend to block them, it shoots with low, long arc..
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Moon, Sun, and Mars 2 are taxonomic kingdom in itself. As for the sound effect, Mars 2 is a simulacre of Nimbus Sound. And Mars 2 @ 35 feels harder than Moon @ 36.

In short, excellent rubber for $ 9.
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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

Yes, black Mars is 34, red Mars 35 d. Uncut red M is 60 gr, cut to 159x150 is 45 g. Just like Moon red. Black M is 67 uncut.
 
The structure of the pimples is the same as that of Moon. Thickness of the topsheet is also the same, color the same, and order the same. Unlike Mercury 2, which is horizontal, Mars 2 pimples are diagonal. It is very difficult indeed to find any difference between Moon and Mars 2 topsheet.
 
Sponge is also the same thickness and porosity as Moon.
 
After 20 minutes play, I could only say that Mars 2 is a sound version of Moon, has more top gears and higher throw on moderate and strong strokes. Spin is the same or less. A rubber for aggressive forehand.
 
That's good news that Mars V2 is very similar to Moon because Mars V2 is cheaper Smile Is it much different from other Chinese brands with Euro/Japan properties ex. LKT Rapid Speed, Red Diamond?
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Yes, black Mars is 34, red Mars 35 d. Uncut red M is 60 gr, cut to 159x150 is 45 g. Just like Moon red. Black M is 67 uncut.
 
The structure of the pimples is the same as that of Moon. Thickness of the topsheet is also the same, color the same, and order the same. Unlike Mercury 2, which is horizontal, Mars 2 pimples are diagonal. It is very difficult indeed to find any difference between Moon and Mars 2 topsheet.
 
Sponge is also the same thickness and porosity as Moon.
 
After 20 minutes play, I could only say that Mars 2 is a sound version of Moon, has more top gears and higher throw on moderate and strong strokes. Spin is the same or less. A rubber for aggressive forehand.
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Probably 34 and 35. The OP has 33 d as it seems from the cover. TTX is selling the rubber in 3 weight categories (1.7, 2.0, 2.3) and 3 hardness versions (33, 37, 41). Topsheet is 38-40 d, which is the same as Mercury 2. If it has the same physical props as Mercury 2, I will be much tempted to try a combination of Mercury 2 topsheet and Moon sponge 1.7 @ 41 d.
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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

Finally ordered a pair of Mars 2 from ttnpp. Initially, they have announced a harder sponge. The same day I got a mail from ttnpp asking me if I'd aggree on a softer sponge, as the harder is not available at the moment.
 
BTW, the sponge of Venus 2 is not the same as Moon and Sun (probably Mars 2 too), i.e. not MaxTense. It is less porous and much harder, in any case harder than Mercury 2 @ 40. Topsheet is also harder. BUT - what surprized me most in V2 was its enormous spin - even more than that of Mercury 2. This is a surprise, because I tried V2 on Clipper CR and discarded it at once. Now, 9 months later, I tried it again on T-11. It's quite different story.
 
Looking forward to your review.  What hardness of Mars V2 will you be getting and what hardness of Venus 2 did you have?
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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

Finally ordered a pair of Mars 2 from ttnpp. Initially, they have announced a harder sponge. The same day I got a mail from ttnpp asking me if I'd aggree on a softer sponge, as the harder is not available at the moment.
 
BTW, the sponge of Venus 2 is not the same as Moon and Sun (probably Mars 2 too), i.e. not MaxTense. It is less porous and much harder, in any case harder than Mercury 2 @ 40. Topsheet is also harder. BUT - what surprized me most in V2 was its enormous spin - even more than that of Mercury 2. This is a surprise, because I tried V2 on Clipper CR and discarded it at once. Now, 9 months later, I tried it again on T-11. It's quite different story.
+1. Get Venus 2 in black. Mine just won't die, still tacky even after 6-8 months. I wish it has thinner topsheet like Venus 1...
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Finally ordered a pair of Mars 2 from ttnpp. Initially, they have announced a harder sponge. The same day I got a mail from ttnpp asking me if I'd aggree on a softer sponge, as the harder is not available at the moment.
 
BTW, the sponge of Venus 2 is not the same as Moon and Sun (probably Mars 2 too), i.e. not MaxTense. It is less porous and much harder, in any case harder than Mercury 2 @ 40. Topsheet is also harder. BUT - what surprized me most in V2 was its enormous spin - even more than that of Mercury 2. This is a surprise, because I tried V2 on Clipper CR and discarded it at once. Now, 9 months later, I tried it again on T-11. It's quite different story.


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would love to try these if anyone would like a tenergy lovers perspective :)
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Originally posted by BeaverMD BeaverMD wrote:

Thanks.  I'm very excited about these new Tenergy-inspired rubbers.  Even if they get close to 85% of the real Tenergies, I won't be disappointed.

I know the Mars V2 plays like a slightly more controlled T64 with a ~2000 rated player saying it was about 85-90% of the speed of T64.  

Moon was a more unique story, the 2.3 sponge is heavier than the 2.1 sponge by a noticeable amount, but we will have some 2.0 sponge being tested tomorrow.  I will say that the speed and feel are amazing in their own right.  I am almost afraid of people viewing it in comparison to other rubbers when it has its own awesome feel.  

I also am starting to fear that I did not import enough, and am try to get more right now, but it might take another month to get them.   =(
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Originally posted by JasonRShaver JasonRShaver wrote:

Originally posted by BeaverMD BeaverMD wrote:

How different are these new Tenergy-series inspired Galaxy rubbers from the Venus II with "Max Tense" "Arbalest" sponge?

They are not tacky is the big difference.  The sponge is pretty close the the same, but the top-sheets are very different, mostly they are softer rubber (it seems, I have not tested them).
 
Thanks.  I'm very excited about these new Tenergy-inspired rubbers.  Even if they get close to 85% of the real Tenergies, I won't be disappointed.
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Originally posted by BeaverMD BeaverMD wrote:

How different are these new Tenergy-series inspired Galaxy rubbers from the Venus II with "Max Tense" "Arbalest" sponge?

They are not tacky is the big difference.  The sponge is pretty close the the same, but the top-sheets are very different, mostly they are softer rubber (it seems, I have not tested them).
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How different are these new Tenergy-series inspired Galaxy rubbers from the Venus II with "Max Tense" "Arbalest" sponge?
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I just got this from a reviewer I gave a sheet of rubber to.  He did not give me permission to use his name, but he is a ~2000 rated player in the Chicago, IL area.  As always, please remember that I work for www.ttxonline.com and while we did not compensate this reviewer, he did get the product for free. 

I also wanted to point out that as of this point, he is still using this rubber in his day-to-day setup.

Mars 2  Red 2.3 mm, 41 deg hardness review

I obtained the above rubber for testing from TTXonline, based in Chicago area. (Thanks to Arcot and Jason). Played couple of 2-3 hour sessions to date, and here’s a brief review based on that experience.  I used Yasaka Maxwood SH blade, and compared this rubber to T64 Red 2.1mm.

I initially tried the Mars 2 on the FH, but it seemed to lack the power, especially away from the table,  in comparison to T64, so mainly used it as a BH rubber.

First impression: The packaging is very nicely done (you can see the pic on ttxonline blog: http://www.ttxonline.com/Blog/post/2010/10/07/REVIEW-The-New-Galaxy-Mars-Rubber.aspx), comes vacuum sealed.

Topsheet/Sponge: Topsheet has a nice shine to it, brighter red color compared to T64, and non-tacky. Comparing the topsheets, the pips on Mars 2 was shorter, and more densely placed (similar to T05 in this aspect) than the T64.

The sponge on the Mars 2 I tested was thicker since it was 2.3 mm, but the color was very similar, and more dense than T64 (which seemed more porous in comparison).

Speed: Definitely slower than T64, but at mid-distance, it was more than sufficient. Mars 2, however, was easier to control since less bouncy, and better for slower touch shots, like the flips.   For speed, I would say, Mars 2 is about 80-85% of T64. T64>Mars 2 

Spin/Serving: Compared to T64, Mars 2 was not as spinny, but when serving to my opponents, and based on my opponent’s comments, the serve using Mars 2 still has plenty of spin, although not as much as T64. Personally, I was able to control the serves better with Mars 2, and didn’t hit as many off the table, which was more frequent using the T64.

Comparing spin, Mars 2 is about 85-90% of T64.

Serving/control: Mars2 > T64

Looping : I still believe that there is no rubber out there that compares to Tenergy rubbers in  power looping (especially from long distance), but I was quite pleased when looping with Mars 2. For such an inexpensive rubber, it has enough power from mid-distance. The throw arc is lower than T64, so from farther distance, one needs to really use more force, but in this aspect, played very similar to Xiom Vega Pro Max rubber (which is my current normal setup).

For looping, I would have to say it will be a toss up between T64 and Mars 2, because it will depend on the style, and how far away from the table one plays.

T64=Mars 2

Smash/Flat hitting: I thought this is where Mars 2 was excellent! When playing with T64, I often had my shots sail off the table, but when hitting flat shots with Mars 2, the ball seemed to dwell a little longer and I was able to hit more accurate flat smashes on a lot more consistent basis. I was surprised how close it played to Xiom Vega Pro Max in this respect.

Mars 2> T64

Blocking: Eventhough the Mars 2 was 2.3 mm and 41 deg, the blocking was a lot easier, due to less bounciness of the rubber, in comparison to T64.

Mars 2>T64

Pushing/Flips: As stated already, the touch shots were much easier with Mars 2 than with T64.

Mars 2 > T64

Therefore, after playing couple of 2-3 hour sessions, I am very pleased, and optimistic about this rubber.  For such an inexpensive rubber, Yinhe/Galaxy did a very good job in coming up with a SIMILAR rubber to Tenergy. As with some of the Chinese rubbers (Globe 999, Gambler Outlaw, Hurricane 3) that I have tried, however, I am a bit concerned about the durability. I will keep testing it, and will advise on the durability. However, as of now, I would recommend it to anyone who wants to try this rubber as a replacement of T64 or even T05 or Xiom Vega Pro Max. I would recommend a slightly softer version of Mars2 if one is using it as a replacement of T64, and the harder version that I am testing as a replacement for T05, and for those who use Xiom Vega Pro Max, the Mars 2  (2.3 mm. 41 deg) plays almost 85-90% similar to it, although slightly less spinny. For such an inexpensive rubber, I am sure more people will experiment with it. 

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Originally posted by valentinm valentinm wrote:

Where can i buy this rubber in Europe?
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Has the original Galaxy/Yinhe T05/T25 clones available Galaxy Moon and Sun.
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Where can i buy this rubber in Europe?
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I'm willing to try the rubber.

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Originally posted by JasonRShaver JasonRShaver wrote:

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Conclusion

As a harbinger to the new Moon and Sun product, this makes me happy.  The succeeded in breaking the Chinese mold and producing a product unlike any other product before.  While my personal skill is unable to take advantage of this 'style' of rubber, I think that anyone looking for a mid-distance attacking rubber would find their $16.99 well spent. 

*** If you are a USATT 1800+ player who is willing to write a good (as in writing quality, not as in shill) review, please let us know! ***

I think I am slightly better than USATT 1800 ( I am UK Vett no 7) ,  would be willing to try it and write a review
 
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so is anyone going to try this rubber?
 
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Originally posted by wyatt wyatt wrote:

Can you compare the pip structure with T05?

I don't have a good photo (I tried to take one but it did not come out well), but looking at them side by side, the Tenergy 05 pips are a bit taller and a hair wider, but the pips per inch seem the same.  

The new Mars vs. Tenergy 64, the pips per inch for Mars is more than T64 and a smaller.
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Originally posted by haggisv haggisv wrote:

Very nice detailed review indeed!Clap

Did it feel like the new Mars was also tuned, like the Venus II and Apollo?

It has a tuned feel, but it is different than the Venus II.  The Apollo has that whole soaked sponge thing going and the new Mars does not feel at all like it.  (For better or worse).


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Can you compare the pip structure with T05?

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