Resources for this stroke? Fast Attack

I'm looking to further develop a close to/over the table FH attack for myself, and also be in a position so I can explain it to another player who is looking to add it to their arsenal.

I had no luck with search.

It's a stroke I developed playing matches and learning to third ball and I currently use it against a variety of balls ranging from dead to medium underspin.

I'd like to clean up the motion (I'll post video here soon) and make it more versatile (meaning only minor adjustments needed for different spins).

It's more of a drive over the table than a loop, with a fairly big non-compact stroke and an upward motion finish.

The closest thing I can find to what I would like to model it after is Liu Gouliang's pips out attacking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxv4MkQzs8Y&feature=related

I know exactly what stroke you are talking about. The main idea when trying to get enough spin and keep the ball on the table is to snap your wrist up on contact. Continue driving straight through. I usually do this with my arm almost completely extended if not fully.

That type of backhand attack is always a harder shot (at least for me) since it has to employ more leverage from both the wrist and the elbow. The timing is harder for me to get right but what I have found that helps is to try and make contact with a little hookspin so that the contact with the ball is not directly tangent to the underspin rotation. It helps me not have to lift as much and gives me a little more control.

thats a good shot to practice if you can someone hit to the same place or play against a fixed robot.

icontek, you mean like this stroke that im using in my forehand, an over the table loop drive?
pardon my noobness on the stroke. you can see it almost as the end of the video

http://www.youtube.com/user/pateros1#p/u/22/xtL97g_1N9k

icontek wrote: I'll see if I can shoot some FH/BH footage Sunday to show what I want to learn/share. Sorry for the delay. So hard to describe what I want to do, but if you've played againbst a high level penholder and accidentally put balls to mid table (no matter how low the bounce) the destruction (to either corner) they are able to unleash is what i want to emulate.

 Just note that a penholders bat is pointing down so the player can do this shot easier

yogi -

i see what you mean - on the FH side i think i hit it flatter/earlier with less of a loop stroke - you are definitely looping the ball!

i like what you were doing on your BH tho - that's exactly the sort of quick attack I am looking to get consistent with.

right now i am limited to using my BH "attack" against certain pendulum service (the ones with the right mix of side under)