super sriver VS sriver

what's the difference between super sriver and sriver?

cheah wrote: what's the difference between super sriver and sriver?

viktorovich wrote: From memory: pips are turned on 90 degrees.

Peter C wrote: Super Sriver had a harder sponge, than Sriver L and Sriver S. It was a rubbers for players who liked to counterdrive or hit. It wasn't as versatile or as easy to play with as Sriver L or Sriver S; hence why it never enjoyed their popularity and was subsequently discontinued. If you would like to try a current Butterfly rubber, with similar characteristics to Super Sriver; then you are looking at Tackifire Drive.

Super Sriver was discontinued on the jurasic age. Besides, it wasn´t neither popular nor special as regular srivers. Why are you interested on it, if you can´t find any brand-new sheet? 

Peter C wrote: Skyline The reason I find Tackifire Drive similar to Super Sriver, is because both are poor rubbers for looping. Both are more suited to hitters. I also felt that they weren't as spinny as rubbers I prefer. I can't recall how Tackifire Drive blocked; but I did notice you were better off driving the ball at the top of the bounce to get into the sponge, to generate spin. For players who like to play a close to the table counterhitting game, then Tackifire Drive might do the job; however for me, both Super Sriver and Tackifire Drive, get my vote as the worst Butterfly rubbers I've come across since 1976.

Difference between Sriver and Super Sriver:

 Sriver L is the designation for underlying pip orientation which runs vertical. Sriver L and Sriver are the same. Sriver S has underlying pips that run horizontally. Years ago Sriver sheets were offered with double logo's leaving the player to decide if they wanted the S or L pip orientation. Just by rotating the rubber sheet they had their choice. I thought that was very unique among rubbers.

super sriver?  maybe only sold in Asia.. they can make anything over there.

Super Sriver back in the day (1970s) was the worst thing they ever came up with.  I am not sure it was the Jurassic but it was certainly the Pleistocine.  It was supposed to be faster than regular Sriver but it had no grip to it, you couldn't spin at all.  I guess today we would say it was really low throw.  In the western world in those days, really serious players mostly used Mark V and regular Sriver.  Just like some people like dogs and some people like cats.  It made things easy.  A forum like this would be boring.  Butterfly came up with Super Sriver to try to eat in Yasaka's market a bit, but in fact it was actually the diametric opposite.  Sriver was always a little harder than Mark V, and Super Sriver played even harder.  It also felt kind of plasticy.  This is of course from memory from when I was in high school.  And memories are fallible.

It's really an odd question to answer in 2012! 

IanMcg wrote: Where was Black Power and Tornado in comparison to Mark V?

  

Skyline wrote: frogger wrote:  Sriver L is the designation for underlying pip orientation which runs vertical. Sriver L and Sriver are the same. Sriver S has underlying pips that run horizontally. Years ago Sriver sheets were offered with double logo's leaving the player to decide if they wanted the S or L pip orientation. Just by rotating the rubber sheet they had their choice. I thought that was very unique among rubbers.   now Andro Shifter has the same idea.