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Alternative of Nittaku Acoustic |
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tongas20
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Posted: 07/05/2011 at 12:35pm |
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Hello everyone. I am really new at this so I apologize. Does anyone know of 5ply (or not too fast 7ply), allwood blades with SIMILAR characteristics to the Nittaku Acoustic?
I'm interested in Japanese blades (because they are usually better finished than the others) but I accept ALL suggestions. The blades I think could be a cheap alternative are: Nittaku Latika, ShellShock. Yasaka Ma Lin EO? OSP Virtuoso OFF-? Important: The blade must do a proper combination with soft rubbers (joola energy extra to be more specific). Thank you very much! |
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zzz
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I've never played the Acoustic, but I have often read that Virtuoso is similar to it.
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Virtuoso+ :: Mark V :: Mark V
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flash
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I don't know for sure but I think that OSP Virtuoso would be one option...second option, from what I've read not tested, I think it would be Timo Boll W5(but not cheap)...yeo it's a differrent species...Bear in mind that the blade should have 5 ply and the top ply should be limba...also I think the blade should have about 157/150 mm...
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Viscaria, FL
T05 hard, 2,1 mm, black, fh T05 hard, 2,1 mm, red, bh. |
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tiehwen
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ermmmm...5 ply allwood blades with SIMILAR characteristics like that of Nittaku Acoustic?
You no longer have to look far, pls. refer to my Signature. (V & V+) The 1st time I played w/my older Acoustic ST (91g), I was shocked & awed by that unique feeling & to this day I'd say that I could not find anything like that....nah....I was wrong, then I got hold of OSP Virtuoso & wow....it's someth'n else, not as expensive as Acoustic or Violin or Tenor but my search ended then.
Btw. both of V & V+ and also that older Acoustic ST were bought from PLLSystem. What a coincident.
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tongas20
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Wich one would you say is more similiar to the Acoustic? V or V+? Both blades have the same construction and the difference is in the balance of the weight (V center balanced, V+ head balanced)? Or the plies construction is different? Edited by tongas20 - 07/05/2011 at 5:36pm |
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mizutani_jun
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5ply and top ply limba,sound like Korbel.
Just the blade dimension is 158/151 mm.
Did you try Korbel?
If somebody near you bring this blade,try it.
Maybe you will like it.
Just my 2 cents.
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arg0
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V+ is stiffer due to harder outer limba ply and a different lamination process. This results in an about 10% stiffer blade (according to OSP), which is a bit faster and has a "clearer contact".
Thickness is about the same: 5.8-5.9mm. Never played an Acoustic, so I cannot tell you which one is more similar. |
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Nori
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I compare v+ to tenor and v to acoustic
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tongas20
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Yeah I think that's a good comparison. Another question: How much is the shipping cost of an OSP blade to the USA? Because maybe with the $85 of the blade + shipping cost it ended up not being so cheap after all... |
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zzz
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Shipping cost is 9€ ~ 13$. Afaik worldwide. |
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Virtuoso+ :: Mark V :: Mark V
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mizutani_jun
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Why dont you just searching for used Korbel?
Try it,maybe you will like it. I have Acoustic for a long time,so as Korbel. For me,Acoustic is superior in feeling but that`s all. Korbel is 3 times cheaper than Acoustic. |
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tongas20
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As you answer me in "Weight of BTY Petr Korbel" topic, Korbel ST handle is no longer in production. I just wonder what was BTY thinking when they decided to stop it's production... I don't know where to get used Korbels... Thanks though |
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mizutani_jun
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FL still available.
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Nori
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I have a PK special korean edition in st... Bad shape tho. |
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chu_bun
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Just place an order 2 weeks ago. Total price is $103.21 after conversion which is on the high side compared to other 5ply wood blade. But this is not a mass produced blade. |
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Clipper Wood, Sanwei Gears FH, Sanwei T88-I BH.
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TSuBaSa
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Virtuoso is just a little bit slower than acoustic but very very close.
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Nittaku Tenaly Acoustic Inner Carbon
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bluebucket
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I felt the expert is the same speed as my acoustic but better feel and much more spin
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j0hn
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what online shop can i find virtuoso?
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stiga inspira plus, dhs h3 provincial 41° | bty dignics 64
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TSuBaSa
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Www.ospblades.com
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Nittaku Tenaly Acoustic Inner Carbon
Joola Rhyzer Pro 50 & 45 |
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zzz
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For clarification if you don't know: OSP blades are handmade blades. The building process starts if you order one. So the only adress for getting a Virtuoso is http://www.ospblades.com |
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Virtuoso+ :: Mark V :: Mark V
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bluebucket
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They are on a holiday at the moment :(
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assiduous
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I have Virtuoso OFF -. I find it quite fast. If you are aiming for ALL/ALL+ range this is kind of a stretch, but certainly dont go for the V OFF or OFF+.
OFF- is quite flexy, despite being fast. I put the same rubbers on many blades to see on which blade the same rubber generates most spin, and this is one of the spinniest blades I have. Looping is very nyce, there is some vibration but it's very subtle, and I find it pleasant because it gives me feedback about the quality of my shot. The pretties blade you can buy. Everyone in the clubs looks at it! :) Worth having imo, even if it's not your primary blade. |
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Vassily
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Why not just get an Acoustic. It isnt that much, considering you live in the USA. You can keep the blade forever anyway. Its expensive/short lived rubbers that really end up being expensive in the long run. If you try to buy alternatives you will always be thinking "what if", and in a couple of years you'll prob go and get an Acoustic anyway.
Ive used my Acoustic for 5-6 years, I got it for ~US$100, works out to ~US$20 a year and going lower as time goes on. Ive spent way more than that on rubbers. In fact if I advertized my old first edition (and probably first batch) Acoustic on this forum I might even recoup all my money and make a profit . The problem with Acoustic is the tiny handle. Latika appears to be a good alternative, but Latika's handle doesnt seem much bigger. So maybe the OSPs might be the one to get. They look extremely pretty too. I doubt the exact type of blade makes too much difference. But sometimes we buy luxury things for our heart. Edited by Vassily - 07/08/2011 at 9:00pm |
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Nittaku Acoustic FL T05 Acuda S2 2.0mm
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RyKnocks
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Would there be any difference between a Galaxy W-6 and the Acoustic/Virtuoso? It seems like they both get the same soft/flexy feel with good looping type of description.
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hookumsnivy
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What are each of the plies on the virtuoso made of?
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tongas20
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How much time do they need to have a blade done? 2 weeks or more? Another question: OSP V off- faster or slower than Acoustic? (Forget the rubbers) |
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Imago
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Over time, Virtuoso tends to be All+ rather than Off- blade. In comparative terms, Virtuoso is markingly slower than Korbel, and certainly slower than Primorac. I am now in possession of 4 OSP blades, plus Korbel and Primorac, so can tell and feel the difference. Out of these, Ultimate is the best choice for an attacking player, 528 has the same speed but better sound and feel. |
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tongas20
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And what would you say of V+ compared with those blades? |
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speaquinox
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I gave my V to a friend that uses Primorac in the last 3 years. He found it fast and returned back to Primorac. Korbel is faster, that I do agree. V+ seems closer to Acoustic, harder feel and a bit stiffer.
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Innerforce ALC, Glayzer / Rozena
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arg0
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Wood! Limba-Limba-Samba-Limba-Limba |
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