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vvu.tee
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I have the V-16 in FL and it is 6.09 mm thick. I compared V-15 on the basis of the specs in the catalog.
If it is not close to 7 mm, it is very different blade from what they say it is. I may get V-15 as well sometimes later this year.
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dingyibvs
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Based on specs and reviews on English and Chinese sites. 6.15 is VERY off. I've seen big fluctuations in weight before but not thickness. Judging by the pictures of the blade, it appears to be ~7mm as well.
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Blade: Hurricane Long 5 (968) FL
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mhnh007
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pine241041
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Just some general info concerning variations. I've had a chance to measure thickness and weight of two T8's purchased within the last 3 - 4 months. The FL handled blade weighed 91 grams, the ST handled blade weighed 93 grams, but both were between 5.8 and 5.9mm in thickness.
per JimT's list and the Galaxy website, the T8 is supposed to be 6.8 +- 0.2mm, 86g +- 3
I think these are T7.5's |
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JimT
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This could be a typo... I need to find some digital caliper or smth and measure my T-8. Perhaps Galaxy meant 5.8 not 6.8, a simple typo to make... |
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addoydude
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I own a Galaxy K-4. Butterfly TBS is much better. Generalization: Galaxy clones are poor substitutes for the real thing.
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JimT
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This is your opinion, and we respect the fact that you didn't like it. However, this is not what the most people who played (quite a few not with a one but with many) Galaxy blades say about them. Consider the possibility that K-4 simply didn't fit your particular style - that doesn't mean that it's a bad blade, it simply means it does not play better than your TBS clone for you. |
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bibigon
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Thickness of my sample of T8 is 6.0 mm.
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kolevtt
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I liked better the Galaxy blade K-4 that I had before time. It was more solid than TBS, with more large handle and great feeling.
I respect deeply the opinion of other people, but it is not right to make a general conclusion only with one attempt. It will be the same as if you try once to make counter loop and after that to tell everybody: Oooh, it is so hardly! Nobody can do it! :) |
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pine241041
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I've never tried TBS and can't say anything about it, but I do own a K4 and feel that it's a very nice blade that can do everything well (a step down from T8 in speed, but a better looping blade). I think the thickness is about right (will have to check), but the weight is 90g with ST handle. |
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vvu.tee
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K-4 is a nice blade in its own right, and most people like it... it would be nice to get more perspective on its purported twin - the V14... IMHO, they are slightly different, but then again, I had them BOTH at the same time for only a brief 10-15 session, and just got a quick rubberless sound and visual inspection, and I was intended on finding differences :-)
Has anyone tested K-4 & V-14 side-by-side?
Edited by vvu.tee - 08/15/2011 at 5:39pm |
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dingyibvs
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What's so funny?
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Blade: Hurricane Long 5 (968) FL
FH: D09C max BH: D09C max |
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kolevtt
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Yes, I have tested TBS with T05 and K-4 with T05, K-4 was the faster and more solid blade than TBS.
It depends of the blade. Blade to blade and rubber to ruber...This topic is not to discredit K-4 or TBS. The handles of K-4 are very different, according to the worker on shift. Also the head size of K-4 is bigger I think. Also the handle is longer than TBS. The new blades TBS are little slower than the old with metal badge. I am telling you this because of my own experience. Surely there are other samples K-4 and TBS which somebody can write that the truth is other... There are not 2 blades same as each other. And I think it is inappropriately to compare baldes which are made by one kind of materials. For example I have two Gergely Carbon. If I remove the handles and delete the writing text for one of them, nobody will tell me that these blades are Gergely both. The one is more solid and more faster. The other one is with thinny handle, more slower and with little kind of vibrations. The conslusion is - buy article by your mind!!! If you like GALAXY, buy GALAXY, if you like BTY, buy BTY. :) Edited by kolevtt - 08/15/2011 at 5:24pm |
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vvu.tee
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I have 2 JMs one 89 and one 86 grams and they play the same. I also have 2 M.Maze's one is 91 gram (old logo) and the other 87 grams (new logo) and I'm hard-pressed to note any material differences in play. I also have two Clippers CR, 89 and 93 grams and they are very different in feel and speed. The 89-gram-Clipper is more akin to my Joola Viva, than to the other Clipper. So yes, there may be some variation... I was interested more in a comparison between the K-4 and V-14. As I mentioned above, I found some differences in grain and sound, but I have never played them at the same time, and have not done any "real" testing. Sellers claim they are identical in specs and and only difference is color, but I have my doubts. Is there an official confirmation from the manufacturer that these are the same blade, and have anyone tested them meaningfully?
Edited by vvu.tee - 08/15/2011 at 6:00pm |
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KleinesDickesAilton
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I did a couple of inquiries with some sellers about the weight of the V.14. It turns out that it's way heavier than 83g (which the blade table here says), more like 90g+. To those of you that play this blade: what is the weight?
Plus: I remember reading that the V.14 is about 4g heavier than the K-4 (maybe on TTXonline?). |
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addoydude
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Of course it goes without saying it was my opinion. But I don't think I have seen anybody write that Galaxy clones are better than their Butterfly counterparts (TBS, Maze, Viscaria especially). I've seen a lot say they are good in their own right, or good for the money, or at most similar playing characteristics. it is possible it didn't fit my particular style. but that's the thing -- it's actually different enough from TBS (of which it is supposed to be similar), that you could like one and not the other. |
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dr_stalker
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I have K-4 and V-14. V-14 is really heavier than K-4. Blade size and thickness are the same. Outer plies of koto are the not completely same (such as outer plies of TBS and Timo Boll ALC). V-14 feels a little harder and stiffer than K-4. K-4 has a little better "ball feeling" than V-14. (both blades were testing with Moon 39 FH and Moon 37 BH). |
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dingyibvs
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Very possible! I inquired about the V-15 with TTNPP, and he told me that he doesn't have any under 90g, even though the listed weight is 85g. Maybe the listed weight is for the CPEN version or something? The good thing is that Galaxy can make the blades to your spec, and the guy at TTNPP told me that if I wanted one at 85g he can order it from Galaxy. So if you want a galaxy blade that suits your liking, you can just talk to your dealer about it and if he's nice enough then he can get one for you even if it's not in stock!
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vvu.tee
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My impressions exactly V-14 had a slightly higher-pitched sound when bouncing a ball on it (than the K-4) and this generally suggests a faster blade. Felt heavier (though I did not weight it) and had a thinner handle.
Seems that Galaxy do not say these are exact copies, retailers do though. It seems more like an upgrade, than a handle paint job (like the TBS and ALC, as mentioned above).
Edited by vvu.tee - 08/16/2011 at 3:50am |
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There are new Galaxy zl and zlc blades in trial stage. The blades are given to selected people for reviewing purposes. V3 and V4.
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the_theologian
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Not sure if any of the MODS are going to keep updating the table but I'll keep adding blade weights. Note: all of the blade weights I provided in the above post were for "flared" versions. Today I received the following Galaxy blades: N-7 (flared): 89.0g N-8 (flared): 86.0g N-11 (straight): 91.4g (wow. I purchased both this N-11 and the last from megaspin.net; which lists 84g. And now we have a 77.3-91.4gram swing)
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debraj
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I would love to get some feedback on V-11.
this blade is unique in its construction... to have best "speed/thickness" ratio; which is difficult to find. it means more dwell (slingshot) without compromising speed.
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JimT
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I have heard that where K-4 had a hollow handle, V-14 doesn't. Is that true? |
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the_theologian
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JimT,
are you going to continue to update the table?
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the_theologian
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K-4 flared: 93.5g
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BH-Man
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That heavy weight is right up my alley, nb. :)
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the_theologian
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yep, you'd probably like it. i couldn't say if it truly plays like a tbs.... still haven't tried one
believe it or not, when it arrived w/ scirocco and iqul max sv... it actually felt light! i was surprised it weighed 93.5 once i weighed. i'm in the middle of glueing RD/BP to it. just experimenting until my new sheets of cj8000 on quattro arrive
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JimT
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I cannot update the weights based on anecdotal evidence. They do naturally differ, and also I am told that Galaxy will make you a blade of the required weight by order (reasonable number of course, if you ask for a 100 g T-4 or a 55 g W-2 they will naturally refuse). But if you guys have some new info on plies or thickness ... then of course. |
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the_theologian
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I was referring more to the random N-6,7,8,10, and two 11's I received from megaspin. There were no special requests there.
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clannewton
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Has anyone tried the Galaxy v-3zl or v-4zlc. How do they compare with the Butterfly ZLC and ZL(Boll, Mitzutani, Innerforce) blades?
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