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Where should THUMB be during shakehand grip? |
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Basic tips I learned from my coach:
- During an offensive backhand stroke the thumb must make pression on blade surface. - During an offensive forehand stroke the index finger must make pression.
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Baal
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Yep, nearly everybody (elite players also) slides their grip around at least a little bit from shot to shot, including where their thumb sits. Also, different players can differ a lot in where their thumb sits most of the time. That is clear from the photos posted by the OP. This is one of those things, like how much the elbow is bent on a forehand loop, that doesn't have just one correct answer. Also, some players change their grip more than others as they hit different shots. I have even known some elite players who say they don't change their grip but when you watch them closely you can see they are doing it some.
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JimT
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It could be just me but I move a bit both my thumb and my index finger depending on the stroke.
1) serve - both are holding the racket a bit lower (off the face) than usual so I could do a faster swing/snap motion 2) opening FH loop close to body - both fingers are on the face, deeper into the racket so I basically perform the loop as if the racket were my palm 3) counter-loop or kill-loop - index finger a bit lower but still on the face, thumb slides down to the top of the handle, so the arc of the swing is a tad longer 4) FH block (simple and fast) - index finger moves up the face becoming less horizontal, thumb stays in place 5) FH block (slowing the ball) - thumb goes lower, index finger presses on the face forcing the ball down a bit more Etc. Some players say that they never change the grip or finger position but I really really doubt that - that's what they were taught but literally nobody can do that. Some elite players also say that they change fingers' position for a smash or a BH loop... but generally they do indeed prefer not to change it much because it creates problems with transition from one shot to the next one. |
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Lots of room for individual variation on this.
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Tinykin
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OP, also note that the photos were taken during the rally. The fingers and thumb move around as the player adjusts his grip for whatever stroke he's playing.
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Cho88
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When I try to pinch the paddle my thumb wants to go lower a little bit, it gives me much better feeling. Is it a bad habit? I play much better with my thumb being as in the first 3 pics than when I pinch it. Pinching kinda restricts my movement, it sucks the power out of my forehand. My trainer's thumb is like in the 4th picture, that's way too high for me. I also read on the net about low and high placement of the thumb during shakehand grip. So obviously there are variations. Also here guy advises that you should hold it as you feel the most comfortable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKVdSGCNr7I&feature=player_embedded I have just recently started with the TT training so I was wondering if I should try to change my grip by lifting my thumb a bit? I know my game will suffer if I do it, just don't know if it's worth it. Especially since the "lower thumb grip" obviously exists, even though it might not be predominant. Edited by Cho88 - 10/14/2012 at 7:52pm |
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kenneyy88
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Thumb should be resting on the bevel on the handle. You should feel yourself pinching the paddle with your index and thumb.
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Cho88
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OK, so first pictures of where my thumb is while I'm holding a racket:
From what I've seen on the net, most people have their thumb touch the rubber, and also my trainer advised me to lift my thumb so that it touches the rubber. This is how he (and lots of other people) hold the racket: I am pretty much used to holding my thumb lower, as in the first 3 pics (2nd pic of Timo Boll is a little bit too low even for my taste hehe). When I lift it and touch the rubber it somehow restricts my forehand movement. I simply am not used to it. Is it really necessary to touch the rubber with your thumb? Most of the people seem to hold it that way, but as noted from the pics, there certainly are exceptions. Thank you very much for your help! Edited by Cho88 - 10/14/2012 at 7:36pm |
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