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    Posted: 08/11/2013 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by decoi decoi wrote:

dunno bout you but my NR50 is like 70 gr cant imagine Nr70 being that much more.


ttxonline.com have them as well


That page at Nexy looks really strange to me - it says that the manufacturer is Adidas (??)

Also it doesn't say anything about the weight...

TTXOnline has it at $150, while you can get it in China for less than $90... $150 is really high for purchasing a blade which you never even held in your hands...
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dunno bout you but my NR50 is like 70 gr cant imagine Nr70 being that much more.


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Any news about these blades? They gotten a bit cheaper - in the neighborhood of $110, but still not a lot of luck tracking down an FL 90g (or lighter) version.

I even asked one of my clubmates to ask around among Chinese dealers during his vacation in Beijing (and he knows some good dealers there) but he came back with zero results.

Perhaps there are just not as many NR-70s produced altogether... and they are all on the heavier side.

Or maybe someone is selling? give me a holler then!
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I would like to add for emphasis:

This blade is excellent, IMO, but if you use WBG and particularly if you are EJing rubbers, SEAL YOUR BLADE with some polyurethane. The outer ply is simply too thin to withstand multiple saturations of WBG combined with the frequent yanking of rubbers. I'm confident this would be true of any other blade with as thin of an outer ply... and sealing is basic common sense, IMO, but I just thought I'd reiterate this.

I've had some mild delaminating on my blades that I've fixed. I figured I'd save some people some heartache by emphasizing what is probably common sense to most people. Wink

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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

I also should add that unfortunately there is no NR-70 for me - the ones (with FL handle) that my contact was able to locate in China were all at least 92 g heavy. That's a bit too much for me.

With Anton's comment I feel like perhaps I should be looking at something else.

But I seal all my blades with some extra polyurethane... perhaps that won't happen to me (famous last words Wink )


Just found out Nexy.com has an 88 g FL version. Too bad I am not buying - only trading...
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Originally posted by stefashka stefashka wrote:

Originally posted by Anton Chigurh Anton Chigurh wrote:

I've been EJing forehand rubbers a bit lately. Nothing too extensive--probably 4 or 5 over the course of the last couple of months. In the course of glueing, removing, and re-glueing, on both of my NR-70s the rosewood ply has started to pull away in a couple places.

What glue do you use?

Isn't the blade covered with coating similar to Stiga's NCT?

Nittaku Finezip, and yes. 

The blade is essentially a Rosewood NCT VII clone (including the coating) but with better production all around (assuming this delaminating issue is not a QC problem).




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Originally posted by Anton Chigurh Anton Chigurh wrote:

I've been EJing forehand rubbers a bit lately. Nothing too extensive--probably 4 or 5 over the course of the last couple of months. In the course of glueing, removing, and re-glueing, on both of my NR-70s the rosewood ply has started to pull away in a couple places.

What glue do you use?

Isn't the blade covered with coating similar to Stiga's NCT?
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It may be worth looking into gluing this blade using rubber cement. I find it to be extremely blade friendly with no splintering, peeling etc. 
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Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

use hair dryer to dry
 
Apsolutely and by all means. Also add some vanilla dust to my WBG to get the inebriating fragrance of fresh-baked cookies.
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Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:


Did you use a lot of glue, and let it air dry?  Water from WBG can penetrate the top ply and weaken the bonds between plies.  I have seen it happens on a couple of YEO (Which happens to have harder top ply as well).  I normally apply a very thin layer of WBG, then use hair dryer to dry, so water has no chance to penertare the top ply.

I don't use excessive amounts of glue, but I do let it air dry. You may have a point; the only thing I would add counter to that would be that I've never had this happen to me before and I've owned, literally, at least 75 different blades and have glued/reglued hundreds of times. 

But perhaps I've never owned a blade with outer veneers that are this thin. 

I've fixed the blades so there is no permanent damage, fortunately, because I do love the way they play. 


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Originally posted by Anton Chigurh Anton Chigurh wrote:

I have my first negative comments on these blades.

I've been EJing forehand rubbers a bit lately. Nothing too extensive--probably 4 or 5 over the course of the last couple of months. In the course of glueing, removing, and re-glueing, on both of my NR-70s the rosewood ply has started to pull away in a couple places. 

To be comprehensive: The blades come sealed from the factory. In addition, I am an incorrigible EJ and am quite adept at glueing and removing rubbers. I pull slowly, from the side, etc., and am quite careful and deliberate in the process. Also, across the many, many blades I've had and the hundreds of times I've reglued, I've never before had this happen. Therefore, I don't think it's me.

The outer rosewood ply is very, very thin. Perhaps that's the issue. (Also, perhaps I need to quit EJing! Embarrassed) But, although the quality control in terms of these two blades seemed nearly flawless, I'm not happy to see this outer ply pull away so easily. 

The blades play excellently but people who like to reglue excessively should be aware. 


Did you use a lot of glue, and let it air dry?  Water from WBG can penetrate the top ply and weaken the bonds between plies.  I have seen it happens on a couple of YEO (Which happens to have harder top ply as well).  I normally apply a very thin layer of WBG, then use hair dryer to dry, so water has no chance to penertare the top ply.
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I also should add that unfortunately there is no NR-70 for me - the ones (with FL handle) that my contact was able to locate in China were all at least 92 g heavy. That's a bit too much for me.

With Anton's comment I feel like perhaps I should be looking at something else.

But I seal all my blades with some extra polyurethane... perhaps that won't happen to me (famous last words Wink )
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I have my first negative comments on these blades.

I've been EJing forehand rubbers a bit lately. Nothing too extensive--probably 4 or 5 over the course of the last couple of months. In the course of glueing, removing, and re-glueing, on both of my NR-70s the rosewood ply has started to pull away in a couple places. 

To be comprehensive: The blades come sealed from the factory. In addition, I am an incorrigible EJ and am quite adept at glueing and removing rubbers. I pull slowly, from the side, etc., and am quite careful and deliberate in the process. Also, across the many, many blades I've had and the hundreds of times I've reglued, I've never before had this happen. Therefore, I don't think it's me.

The outer rosewood ply is very, very thin. Perhaps that's the issue. (Also, perhaps I need to quit EJing! Embarrassed) But, although the quality control in terms of these two blades seemed nearly flawless, I'm not happy to see this outer ply pull away so easily. 

The blades play excellently but people who like to reglue excessively should be aware. 




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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

My wife also remembered - quite of a sudden (nothing to do with my latest Barwell Fleet acquisition) - that she used to be a former Master of sport in Biathlon.


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I am alive! Just was really busy preparing for and then playing NA Teams.

PingPongHolic10 promised to try and find NR-70 within my weight range. When he gets back from his trip (in about two weeks) I am hoping he'll bring it.
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Lately I didn't hear from JimT. Probably his wife finally killed him. My wife also remembered - quite of a sudden (nothing to do with my latest Barwell Fleet acquisition) - that she used to be a former Master of sport in Biathlon.
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Just wanted to come back to this thread briefly and mention that my positive feelings for this blade are none diminished. If anything, increased. I now have two of these blades--one my main blade and another as a back up. 

A couple of my training partners have tried it and thought very highly of it, in terms of construction, play, and feel. One of them owns and used to use extensively a Stiga Rosewood NCT VII. He said he felt the NR-70 was a much superior blade to his Stiga. 

These blades are pricey, but for anyone looking to spend the big bucks on a Stiga Rosewood NCT VII, I would strongly recommend considering a Yinhe NR-70 first. Thumbs Up

JimT: Did you have any luck tracking down a blade in your preferred weight range?

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Originally posted by Anton Chigurh Anton Chigurh wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

I asked that same forummer to try and get me NR-70 FL around 85-86-87 g. If that happens, I will add my impressions here as well.

I'm interested to hear your impressions. 

I'm currently considering picking up a NE-70 (the Ebenholz version)... but I need to decide if it's worth being murdered by my wife first...



That is always a worthy consideration Smile

I am going to get rid of a few of my possessions - couple of extra blades and some rubbers to make room for NR-70, so I am not worried there. I hope she won't notice anyway...
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

I asked that same forummer to try and get me NR-70 FL around 85-86-87 g. If that happens, I will add my impressions here as well.

I'm interested to hear your impressions. 

I'm currently considering picking up a NE-70 (the Ebenholz version)... but I need to decide if it's worth being murdered by my wife first...




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I asked that same forummer to try and get me NR-70 FL around 85-86-87 g. If that happens, I will add my impressions here as well.
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I ordered (and received) my second NR-70. I just wanted to mention that this second blade is of equal quality as the first one I purchased. That is, perfect finish, single piece rosewood veneers (i.e., no splicing), near perfect uniform thickness, and very uniform grain. 

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Although I currently prefer the NR-70, I will definitely not be getting rid of the Carbo 7.6.

I do love that blade. From what I've gathered, most people who try it feel the same. Awesome blade.


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Originally posted by Anton Chigurh Anton Chigurh wrote:


My Carbo 7.6 is WRB. The NR-70 allegedly has a hollow handle. Both of my setups are within 0.4g of each other, yet the Carbo 7.6 feels noticeably heavier. It is much more head heavy than the NR-70. Further, the Carbo 7.6 has much more vibration despite the carbon. 

Hopefully that comparison tells you something. Even with a hollow handle, the NR-70 is better balanced with less vibration than the Carbo 7.6 that is WRB. 


That actually does indeed tell me something as I used to own (among many other blades) Carbo 7.6 and played a bit with it. Good blade in its own right. Thank you.
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by Anton Chigurh Anton Chigurh wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

So, Anton - is it really 6.7 mm thick or 5.8 as Eacheng says? It's kind of a deal breaker for me - I don't like blades thinner than 6.2-6.3 mm.

I don't have any calipers to measure the precise width, but my Carbo 7.6 is roughly 6.3mm I do know for sure. The NR-70 I have is noticeably thicker, so I'm guessing it is close to the advertised 6.7mm.

Sorry I cannot be more precise. But it is definitely not 5.8mm.  



Thanks. It's just that I have found two or three sellers (Chinese) and they all list thickness at 5.8 mm - probably copied it from somewhere.

It's very annoying that Yinhe still hasn't got their website running again.

Also - they say that the handle is hollow. Do you feel it in vibration or in balance being shifted into the head?

My Carbo 7.6 is WRB. The NR-70 allegedly has a hollow handle. Both of my setups are within 0.4g of each other, yet the Carbo 7.6 feels noticeably heavier. It is much more head heavy than the NR-70. Further, the Carbo 7.6 has much more vibration despite the carbon. 

Hopefully that comparison tells you something. Even with a hollow handle, the NR-70 is better balanced with less vibration than the Carbo 7.6 that is WRB. 

Let me send you a PM to put you in touch with someone who has some NR-70s to sell. You can see if you guys can work something out. 


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Originally posted by Anton Chigurh Anton Chigurh wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

So, Anton - is it really 6.7 mm thick or 5.8 as Eacheng says? It's kind of a deal breaker for me - I don't like blades thinner than 6.2-6.3 mm.

I don't have any calipers to measure the precise width, but my Carbo 7.6 is roughly 6.3mm I do know for sure. The NR-70 I have is noticeably thicker, so I'm guessing it is close to the advertised 6.7mm.

Sorry I cannot be more precise. But it is definitely not 5.8mm.  



Thanks. It's just that I have found two or three sellers (Chinese) and they all list thickness at 5.8 mm - probably copied it from somewhere.

It's very annoying that Yinhe still hasn't got their website running again.

Also - they say that the handle is hollow. Do you feel it in vibration or in balance being shifted into the head?
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

So, Anton - is it really 6.7 mm thick or 5.8 as Eacheng says? It's kind of a deal breaker for me - I don't like blades thinner than 6.2-6.3 mm.

I don't have any calipers to measure the precise width, but my Carbo 7.6 is roughly 6.3mm I do know for sure. The NR-70 I have is noticeably thicker, so I'm guessing it is close to the advertised 6.7mm.

Sorry I cannot be more precise. But it is definitely not 5.8mm.  


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