TIBHAR Evolution rubber FX-P, EL-P, MX-S, MX-P

After reading this topic I am very interested in this rubber. I have been using TBS with 05-fx for about 4 years now. 

speaquinox wrote: If you are playing t05fx, why pick the hardest of the series? Mx-p imho is even harder than regular 05.

+1

Fx-P is a really good substitute for T05fx!

Hardness:

Edited by slevin - 07/27/2015 at 2:18pm

And how about MX-S hardness compare to T05 and T05fx?

Johnny Erasure wrote: And how about MX-S hardness compare to T05 and T05fx?

MX-S harder than MX-P.

Nope... It is a different sponge and pimple geometry.

AgReZz wrote: Ok now I am quite unsure what should I try. So you suggest I should try the FX-P. But earlier in this thread someone compared FX-P to 05-FX and said it is worse at almost everything. So maybe I should stick to 05-fx after all ?. By the way I dont have problem playing with hard rubbers. Its just that I hated 05. It was too slow and ridiculously big throw.

Except maybe in slow spinny looping T05fx has nothing much better than fx-p. Also I find fx-p better in flat hitting, blocking and counter looping. Fx-p is also less sensitive to incoming spin, which makes it easier to return serves and to play in general.

If hardness is not a problem then you can for the Mx-p which is clearly faster than T05 and has lower throw.

I played and tested all Tenergy's and all Evolution series. I currently play Evolution Series due to price and personal feeling. I love Tenergy05 but I also love Evolution EL-P and to me it serves me just as well and costs me 1/2 due to club sponsership deal.

If you're looking for T05FX replacement go for FX-P.

For all the Tenergy lovers:

Tenergy 64 = EL-P but EL-P is spinnier
Tenergy 05 = EL-P but EL-P throws quite lower and is faster
Tenergy 80 = EL-P but EL-P throws a bit lower and is a bit faster

For me Tenergy only wins at counter loop close to the table while ball is on the rise. The behavior is a bit erratic here, the contact must be clean and perfect for it to work, with Tenergy you have more room for a less than perfect timing.

EL-P is much better for several other parts of the game: short game, pushes, block, drive, smash.
EL-P is just as spinny as T05 for service but for loop/topspin I reckon T05 gives about 10% more spin for advanced players, even more if your technique is not very good.

MX-P is harder than T05 and to me it feels less spinny than EL-P close to the table.
MX-S is harder than T05 and to me it lacks catapult far from the table.

Feel free to ask me anything about these rubbers.

I currently play EL-P w/ Clipper CR and I think it's a really good alternative to Tenergy. There's a plus with EL-P... I played many years with speed glue and I recently decided to get back in the game after 6 years off. I played Sriver with lots of speedglue and I must say I'm still addicted to the sound of fresh glued rubbers. Tenergy is good but EL-P is louder and I like that, it's very rewarding when you make strong perfect contact.



Edited by Figueiredo81 - 07/28/2015 at 12:33pm

Ok thank you for answers. I will probably try FX-P red on bh and MX-P black fh.

Mickael wrote: Figueiredo81 wrote: I played and tested all Tenergy's and all Evolution series. I currently play Evolution Series due to price and personal feeling. I love Tenergy05 but I also love Evolution EL-P and to me it serves me just as well and costs me 1/2 due to club sponsership deal. If you're looking for T05FX replacement go for FX-P. For all the Tenergy lovers: Tenergy 64 = EL-P but EL-P is spinnier Tenergy 05 = EL-P but EL-P throws quite lower and is faster Tenergy 80 = EL-P but EL-P throws a bit lower and is a bit faster For me Tenergy only wins at counter loop close to the table while ball is on the rise. The behavior is a bit erratic here, the contact must be clean and perfect for it to work, with Tenergy you have more room for a less than perfect timing. EL-P is much better for several other parts of the game: short game, pushes, block, drive, smash. EL-P is just as spinny as T05 for service but for loop/topspin I reckon T05 gives about 10% more spin for advanced players, even more if your technique is not very good. MX-P is harder than T05 and to me it feels less spinny than EL-P close to the table. MX-S is harder than T05 and to me it lacks catapult far from the table. Feel free to ask me anything about these rubbers. I currently play EL-P w/ Clipper CR and I think it's a really good alternative to Tenergy. There's a plus with EL-P... I played many years with speed glue and I recently decided to get back in the game after 6 years off. I played Sriver with lots of speedglue and I must say I'm still addicted to the sound of fresh glued rubbers. Tenergy is good but EL-P is louder and I like that, it's very rewarding when you make strong perfect contact.

what is the weight of elp compared to05 please?

Figueiredo81 wrote: About the same. MX-P and MX-S are heavier. FX-P = T64

it is the max elp we are talking about ?

thanks for the great advice,now Elp is my main weapon. and your review Figueiredo81 was pretty much accurate:)

Mickael wrote: thanks for the great advice,now Elp is my main weapon. and your review Figueiredo81 was pretty much accurate:)

What blade are you using with EL-P?

How does it fit ALC blades?

After reading some posts on this thread I realized  that it is more than 3 years old and so is the evolution series. So my question is if the rubbers are so good why isnt it more popular ? For example in Czech Republic I have never seen anyone playing with evolution. 

Edited by AgReZz - 08/17/2015 at 3:14pm

Mx-p is easily my favorite rubber. My looping with it has surpassed bfs, omegas, rasant pg, Vegas and feels like 95% if not 99% t05.