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Timo1978
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Posted: 07/30/2013 at 1:21pm |
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Today I received this Viscaria.
Edited by Timo1978 - 07/30/2013 at 1:28pm |
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jt99sf
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The handle is off and the silver tag is not correct. The box is a generic one w/o the serial number.
The back plastic lens is not straight.
Who was the seller ? |
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
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tiehwen
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it's fake.
the handle & neck area are way off. There's also something not quite right about the silver tag and also that J.T.T.A.A. stamp is way way diff. than those of my 2 orig. old & new Viscarias. Where did you get/buy this? Did you buy it here from some reg./famous/popular seller who always boasts to all that he has some cousins/relatives/families in China? It's most probably from Taobao or BuyChina.... |
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Timo1978
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The seller was danroid, I think you already know his photos on flickr, he is "the friend" of
jimyolo.....I found the Picture of the viscaria already two weeks ago, but at that time the blade was already pending. So i had to decide at the custom to send it back or to let it deliver without the possibility to have a look at it. I decided not to send back just to make sure that it is a fake, so we can add danroid to the black-list. I know for sure that there are other fake blades made by the same Producer in China, blade models are AMULTART / MIZUTANI / BOLL SPIRIT and BOLL ALC and i saw he sold These models to others before...
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Timo1978
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The J.T.T.A.A. is not stamped, it is stitched The Silver Tag is also Little wrong with shape...
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jt99sf
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The texture of the silver tag is not correct. Should be smooth, not bumpy.
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
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Timo1978
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This is already for sale, so pay Attention:
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ttman
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I warned imago the moderator that danroid was selling fake product, his zjk blade was obviously fake too
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stiltt
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I was warned before by other members that the probability he was a scammer was real and pretty high; we have now enough evidence to get rid of him; I'll ban him temporarily until all mods decide this is a permaban.
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jt99sf
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that go for "jimyolo" too.
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
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Timo1978
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I am glad to hear that the passing Viscaria helped out to proof that he is selling fakes.
Looking at the Way he acted i am sure he knew that it was a plagiat... |
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jt99sf
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Both "danroid" and "jimyolo" knew they were selling fakes.
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
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btw jimyolo was banned temporarily until final verdict by all mods. thanks to our gate keepers who keep both eyes open to chase the fake sellers.
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kurokami
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mine's pretty old so i can't remember clearly, but was the handle ever blue? lol
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Dean
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Hello friends,
please have a look at this item, I am pretty sure the guy just sold the same fake Viscaria here: The seller sold one of it before at a very high price, the pictures imo make it clear 100%: And I think this wasn´t the last time. After your opinions/confirmation I will send an email to the buyer of the elder auction to tell him he was cheated (he already left feedback so I can contact him). The same for the second item after the buyer left feedback. Horrible.
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liulin04
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it is obvious a fake, good job with notifying it Chris. I too did that once on ebay, where I contacted ebay to report a fake item being sold... shame on these scammers
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kakapo
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Dirty f....g scammers !!!!
I might have been caught by this crooks !!!!!
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Dean
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Thanks Cong! I have just contacted ebay and also the first buyer. There is always a little chance that a seller does not know that he owns/sells a fake Viscaria. But in this case it is obvious the guy is cheating.
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Antuan
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It is a fake,sure. The form and colour of the handle looks very strange.
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jt99sf
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The first one is unclear, need more pics of the handle and tag. The second is a fake for sure. Handle is a dead give away.
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emihet
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just from looking at the neck, handle and shape looks way off...sorry, but i think it is likely to be fake
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sweetstrike
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There are 2 wood plies over the arylate/carbon layer. Real Viscaria should only have 1.
I think I understand why butterfly wants to discontinue Viscaria since there are too many fakes on the market. ...But they can't cuz ZJK is in love with his. |
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Olio
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I'm glad I didn't buy the blade from Danroid and his friend on ttdaily... I had doubts.
Sorry somebody had to buy it to realise it was a fake. Danroid and his mate Amultart also sell blades and sought after DHS rubbers (prov, nat, BS) on ttdaily
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Dean
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As far as I can see now the seller sold at least three of the fake Viscarias on german Ebay: No.1: No.2: No.3: One of the buyers already sells his fake Viscaria: |
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jt99sf
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the easier way to ID a real one is to match the serial number on the blade with the box. if it's not the original box, then you need to do some homework.
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Timo1978
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I pm' ed the reseller yesterday and asked
for serialnumbers on box and blade, got very nice reply "there are so many numbers and japanese letters at the box i do Not know what you mean!😇 I answered how 2 compare-no more reply- Regarding the provided pictures in offer he placed the box for his advantage-the seller knows it is fake👹 |
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Dean
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Thanks Timo - in that case we had success. For two days the seller did not show the slightest inclination to end the auction. Now Ebay took it out.
But I guess it is only a question of time until the next one appears. |
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Thomasson
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Glad I went on vacation, I just answered his pm about him offering me one.
Promised I would buy one from him after I came back. Now I read this and no money will be invested! Thanks |
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Giangt
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Hi guys,
I am the one who bought one Viscaria FL on TTDaily. I just recently read all the threads about counterfeit Viscaria FL's there has been posted here lately. This is the thread I am referring to http://mytt.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61704&KW=&PID=734694&title=sold#734694 I haven't received the blade yet and do not really know what to do. Here are the pics he showed me http://www.flickr.com/photos/98960235@N03/ I think he is indeed the same person. Help me out guys. Thanks |
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