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 Joola Maxxx 450 -45 degrees -red max -68-70 grams uncut -used with adidas challenge speed blade (all wood clipper like blade)  This Maxxx 450 rubber is one of the 3 in the Maxxx series. this is the medium hardness sponge of the 3. The sponge seemed medium but the topsheet felt softer when i compared it with the Rhyzm.  The sponge is almost identical to that of the Tenzone Ultra or Tibhar evolution series. Compared to the Rhyzm, the Maxxx 450 have a more porous sponge with larger holes. It is also less denser than the Rhyzm Sponge. The topsheet has a different design than the Rhyzm because it has longer pips and the spacing between pips looks wider.  The M450 has a semi-loud "tonk" sound when I was hitting with it in my forehand. I could feel the ball compress against rubber more than the Rhyzm because of its softer topsheet and sponge. The Challenge SPeed blade being an off+ blade when used with the M450 felt as an off set up not off+ but close to it. I didn't feel that it was too fast. It was like the speed of the Donic BF M2. In fact, the Rhyzm was faster by a margin and has a longer trajectory. I felt more comfortable using the M450 in my backhand because it was very easy to use. The Acuda S2 was my favorite backhand rubber, if not for its poor durability I would still be using it up until now, felt close to the M450 but with a softer topsheet. The M450 is very spinny. It felt spinnier than the Rhyzm. I think the strength of the M450 is on being able to produce spin easily when doing top spins. You do not need to dig deeper into the sponge for the ball in order to make good loops.  Inside the table, drop shots seem a lil bouncy but controllable and can be adjusted to. flicks against backspin are good. This is more of a mid distance rubber. Very fast close to the table but doesn't feel too fast far from the table. Mid distance this rubber really shines in spinny counter loops especially when doing with sidespins on the counter. When I was countering with it, the ball compresses well against the sponge adding more spin and power to the shot.  I think it feels closer to the tenzone ultra in terms of the sponge but the topsheet is identical to that of the BF series or the Evo series.  |
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Posted: 10/21/2013 at 10:26pm |
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well it sure looks butter soft. bet its springy
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Posted: 10/21/2013 at 11:15pm |
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Doesn't the number 450 stand for 45deg sponge hardness?
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yes it's 45 degrees. the sponge is medium but the topsheet seemed softer than el-p
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Posted: 10/22/2013 at 1:28am |
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it's a very soft rubber for 45 degrees especially because of the soft topsheet.
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Posted: 10/22/2013 at 2:01am |
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Rhyzm sponge looks a lot more dense than maxxx sponge. Anyone know what rhyzm hardness is?
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48 degrees
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really anxious to hear your reviews yogi. I'm gonna order a sheet of this as well to try out. I've heard it plays very similar to Bluefire rubber. That sponge is crazy looking. Very different from Rhyzm.
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Posted: 10/22/2013 at 10:48am |
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Bluefire, Evolution, similar to those. It is very fast and jumpy but is abot 10 kilometers behind Rhyzm in control. I have a 500 for sale, 30 mins tested only. black, max thickness. Just another flavor of those fast, spiny, out of control rubbers. If you think you BF has good control, then yes, I guess you can try this one too.
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Posted: 10/22/2013 at 11:28am |
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i received a joola maxxx 450 red max from joola mid augustus.
i glued it on a gewo texalite def with a tsp curl p-4 ox. i played my first tournament without trainning session... results: 5th place in my ranking and 2nd in the serie with 2 upranked players! the max version is a bit heavy. the + points are serves and returns and slow loops. attacks are ok (but as def player i am not a 3rd ball hitter) the - points are short games ( max!) and blocks (my actual weakness) 2nd competition: 2nd 3rd: 3rd 4th: 2nd no need to play for hours to play good with it. in my opinion, i can almost do what i could do with the tenergy 64... it is also really easy to cut (compare to phenix) and to glue (still on my blade with only 1st time andro gluing)
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Posted: 10/22/2013 at 12:32pm |
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thanks for the update Boss.
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Posted: 10/22/2013 at 8:41pm |
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updated with review
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Posted: 10/22/2013 at 11:58pm |
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Rhyzm's hard topsheet makes it possible to use any of its sponges as a forehand rubber. Rhyzm just has that control - I wish it wasn't so heavy (another thing about Rhyzm - you don't save weight by using softer sponges). I have decided to put the 425 back on my forehand. I need my smashing and looping machine back!
We don't need more Tenergy clones... Edited by NextLevel - 10/22/2013 at 11:59pm |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Posted: 10/23/2013 at 1:02am |
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You comparing this with Rhyzm and not Rhyzm 425 right?
Based on the ad, Maxxx 450 is for mid/far distance play while the Maxxx 500 is for close/mid.
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Posted: 10/23/2013 at 5:02am |
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yes im comparing it with the rhyzm 48 degrees the first rhyzm rubber. i have not tried much of the maxxx 500 to make a thorough review.
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Posted: 10/23/2013 at 11:07am |
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Rhyzm is definitely not a heavy rubber. Not today. Yes, you can find lighter, but Evolution, Bluefire, Tenergy and Tenzone are all noticeably heavier than rhyzm.
Maxx is rally spiny, like yogi said. When u land it with a full power swing its nasty to block. The problem is that soft topsheet + soft sponge is a recipe for poor control. I don't think its physically to make an accurate rubber with such physical properties. I wish Joola made an even better version of Rhyzm, if that's possible. Maxx is in the wrong direction. It will never be adopted by a pro.
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Posted: 10/23/2013 at 10:22pm |
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 Great review...... as usual. How about the weight?is it like the rest of the new ESN offerings(heavy)
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Maxxx 450 is as heavy as other new generation tensor rubbers.
If you are looking for an improved version of the Rhyzm you should try the Victas V>01. It is very similar to Rhyzm but more powerful and spinnier than Rhyzm in my experience. |
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Weight??
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For Maxxx 450 or V>01?
Anyway both in max are between 46 and 50gr cut to 157x150 depending on the sample and on glue layers. I will open a new V>01 max soon and I will try to check more exactly.
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Posted: 10/24/2013 at 4:02am |
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i agree that the 450 is not built mainly for speed but rather for spin oriented game but it is not a slow rubber. its rather fast but not on the level of the rhyzm 48 degrees. it is very easy to spin though
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yes Maxxx 450 is actually quite fast and it's not too difficult to generate spin and speed but the big difference with Rhyzm is lack of power to reach maximum speed. But this should only be of concern for quite high-level players or intermediate players using a lot full-power shots. For most players there won't be lack of power with Maxxx 450.
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Thanks for the input for the Victas V>01, I was curious but there isn't much info......being spinier than Rhyzm sounds intriguing, since I liked almost everything in Rhyzm, except it's spin. Is it comparable to T64? Merci
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 I meant : is Victas>V01 comparable to the T64
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personally I find T64 quite different from Rhyzm or V>01 because it is softer and has less power. But Maxxx 450 and V>01 stiff are closer to T64 in terms of hardness, speed and power.
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Yogi, how does Maxxx 450 compare to Tenzone Ultra in terms of overall hardness, speed, and spin?
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i think they are quite similar in all 3 aspects, in terms of preference i felt the ultra was better for fh and the 450 for the bh. the ultra has gears for the fh that the 450 doesnt have and also the TU seems to have more power in my fh shots
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Sponge looks identical to Rasant, Bluefire, & Evolution. Open-porous, springy sponges every color of the rainbow! I wonder how long it will be until Chinese companies start making clones of open-pored Tensor rubbers...
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I am not agree with this. it's not soft rubber. |
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Well I didn't say it was a soft rubber... I said it's a very soft rubber for 45 degrees
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