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Timothy Wang losing to a 2300 |
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j-bo
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Not to take anything away from the Doc...I'm sure he was on cloud 9!!
But how many times was he faulted for his illegal serve? Neither of his 2 serves in the video posted (1 was a let) came close to 6". |
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I agree 100% with you concerning inverted also. Spin, speed, pips structure, sponge density...it's crazy man. And the question is...where does it all end so their is reasonable standardization to make it fair for all style players? Not to sideline the thread concerning Timothy. He is a fine player and anyone can have a strange day. |
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Tim wasn't playing well at all and just got off the plane from Texas a few hours ago. I played him in the Open RR before he played Shuja, and he was playing nowhere near his peak level. Needless to say, he should have been able to adjust, even though Shuja's style is tricky and effective.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Well I am a 2000-2100 level. I got one deuce game against him and some good points in the other games and he was trying. He also got into two very close, deuce games against the other player in our group who is 2250-2300 level.
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Good....
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+1. That's all that needs to be said about this. P.S.: Am I the only one who finds the title of this thread disrespectful to the player who caused the upset? When Pitchford, at the time ranked well outside of 100, beat Gao Ning, Kenta Matsudaira, and Oh Sang Eun - who were ranked 16, 18, and 29 - I don't recall any threads on any TT forum titled "Gao Ning lost to an 125" ... Pitchford's wins were far bigger upset than this. P.P.S: And the obsession with/lack of respect for unconventional rubber players - give me a break, guys, watch Greg's videos and just get over it ... |
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You can't seriously compare that. All pros have gone through rigorous training and have the technical ability to beat any other pros except for top 20 maybe? The analogy you are suggesting is ridiculous and quite frankly silly. 2600 is technically somewhere else than a 2300 level player. As far as I am concerned, I don't care about the unconventional rubber but the rather the style. If they were LP choppers, SP hitters it is still a beautiful and exciting game to watch. While with LP blocking you essentially stand there, put out your paddle and try to confuse your opponent. I admit that Shuja is not as extreme as Pushblocker and actively utilizes his FH but still, certain components of the BH-block-covering-the-table can be observed as well.
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Vvk1,
Yes, you are on your own for the most part. That you would use the analogy of a rising junior star beating top players as comparable to a part time player beating a professional just shows to me you don't really care to understand what is making people wonder in the first place. Kudos to Jafar, but the story of this win will be caveated the same way that CCY's win over ML in the 2012 World Cup was. |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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What blade and long pips OX does he use ? He is presently rated 2211. Edited by LUCKYLOOP - 11/26/2017 at 7:40am |
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pongfugrasshopper
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If anything, I think the title is disrespectful to Timothy. |
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Too much non-sense in this thread.
Someone lost from another player. What's wrong here? In other case then the medals must go preliminary without any games to the favorites. Our sport in unpredictable, I have seen a match with two world class players many years ago, one leads 1:0 and 20:6, then 20:16 his coach was laughing so much and loud, asked for time out, but was too late. Player lost 20:22. Why excuse must be available?! Here in France I have seen the same style (long OX on bh and short pips on fh) 1600 player to beat 2400 player. On the next week that 2400 player was close to win versus 3000 points level player, but lost 2:3 And that 3000 level player win versus WR 20 player 4:0 on the next week in Pro Tour. Are you able to think that 1600 points player is able to win VS WR20 level player? Should be cool to know. |
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what short pips and blade is jafar using? |
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Do you have it on video? If you do, it's not too late to burn it to disc and send it to Berndt for Christmas. |
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Shuja has transitioned from lp blocking, fh hitting to a chopping game with surprise attacks. He went from low friction to high friction long pips and slower blade and slower short pips rubber on the FH for chopping. He dropped a lot of points due to radical change of style. He was about 2380 or so when he started changing style.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJbyCGR_QRs
From blocker to chopper!
Edited by obesechopper - 11/27/2017 at 11:18am |
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Shujar used to be a penholder too! Talented friend.
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Timothy has been doing a lot of coaching. Hard to coach and be competitive at the same time.
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You guys realize that this thread is 4 years old?
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mts388
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Thanks for the wake up. Didn't even notice. |
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He can play with just about any rubber and any grip at 2200+ level.. He is also an excellent Tennis player.. I believe that his Tennis rating using the USATT system would be above 2500...
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I thought Timothy had opened up a Center....like....in Houston? I just saw him at ICC over the holiday. :)
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He'd be an excellent candidate for racketlon if he's any good at badminton and squash. |
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I think he has taken over the ICC program |
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He is not listed as a coach at HITTA any more. HITTA |
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Yup, he's now a Director of ICC in Milpitas: https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Table-Tennis/Features/2017/September/17/US-Olympian-Timothy-Wang-Takes-on-New-Role-at-ICC-Table-Tennis-Center
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I know he was not real happy at HITTA. He is my friend and I hope everything goes well for him at ICC.
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