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Dr. Neubauer Hercules Review (in comparison with Joola Rosskopf Emotion)

Abbreviations: Hercules (HER), Rosskopf Emotion (RE)

Disclaimer: I received the blade from Dr. Neubauer for testing

 
About the reviewer:

My USATT rating is around 1900. My strength is my forehand with which I score the majority of my points mainly through looping; my serve is probably above average for my rating. I play close to the table with blocking and looping. I play with frictionless anti on backhand, mainly for returning serve and blocking topspin loops.

I have not reviewed any equipment on this forum yet but I have written quite a number of reviews (blades and rubber) on a couple of German forums.

Setup:

Both blades in this test were played with the same rubbers, Tenergy 05 max on forehand and Dr. Neubauer ABS 1.2mm (frictionless anti) on backhand. In addition I also tested the Hercules blade during one session with Joola Rhyzm max on forehand. The HER has an anatomic and the RE a flared handle.

Description on Dr. Neubauer’s website:

HERCULES is “the” new benchmark for combination blades.

It is made of a unique plywood composition which includes – among others – the legendary Kiso-Hinoki wood and a new type of artificial fiber.


HERCULES is a match for pimple-out and Anti-Spin rubber of any type.
It is the downright perfect weapon for highly disruptive balls while blocking close to the table, the ball can be returned very short and tends to “dive” considerably.

This “allround“ blade also comes with a very good control that provides an excellent feeling for the ball at all times.

The blade can also be used for strong hitting and fast looping with offensive rubbers to put pressure on your opponent.

HERCULES: A real poison for your opponent!

 

Price:

EURO 119.00

Category:

Allround

Weight:

appr. 85g

Layers:

5

Thickness:

6mm

Handle types:

straight-flared-anatomic

Speed:

80

Control:

92

Rigidity:

90

Dimensions (H x W)

15,3 x 15,3cm

Appearance:

The Hercules blade is absolutely top notch in terms of quality of the materials and craftsmanship in the same category as Butterfly, Xiom or Victas to name a few which I have tested in the past. In particular the Kiso Hinoki out plies and handle look very nice and have a very smooth and soft feel giving it an appearance of luxury. The quality of the RE in comparison is decent but not as nice as the HER in particular the Hinoki out plays which are quite thin and not of the same quality as for the HER, probably not the expensive Kiso variety. The Dr. Neubauer blade as a wooden edge protection made of Hinoki as well (it appears) so that you cannot see the inside of the blade, however, I applied some sandpaper at the wing above the handle to make it a little bit more comfortable. The HER seems to have a thick center ply (not sure what it is), the artificial fiber directly on top of the center ply and then follows the relatively thick Kiso Hinoki plies. The artificial fiber has a greyish-black appearance.

Weight
The HER came in at 79g and the RE at 78g so both blades were at the low end of what you would have expected for them; I typically like blades in the 83-87g range. For some reason the setup with the RE felt light and I did not really like it but the HER set-up felt right from the beginning maybe because the blade itself is balanced better as the RE has a fatter handle pushing the center of gravity more toward the handle. I might have to test a heavier RE at some point…
 
Feel/Touch

Both blades are certainly in the “soft feel” category and have a solid touch whereas the RE overall feels harder and more unrefined than the HER. The HER feels buttery soft (Kiso Hinoki makes a difference!) and has an absolute fabulous feel. I particularly like the combination of the soft touch with the T05 but similarly hard Rhyzm felt very nice too. I am not sure how it would do in combination with a softer rubber (I still have a T05fx at home which I wanted to try at some point) but I guess it would still be okay since it is very solid and stiff. There are no vibrations to speak of for neither blade.

Flex

Both blades are quite stiff with no flex as you would expect from a carbon blade giving them a very solid feel.

Speed

I would rate the HER as All+ to Off- and not All as on the Dr. Neubauer website; it has a very decent speed but not too fast for close to the table play. It does lack a little bit of firepower for looping and counter looping away from the table but it was not made for that either. The RE I tested in comparison might a little bit faster, like Off-, but it was not a solid Off blade either. When hitting with a lot of power the speed between the 2 blades was a wash but the RE is definitely faster in the lower gears. In short play and on passive strokes the HER almost plays like a true All blade, whereas the RE still behaves like Off-, making serving, serve return and short pushed and drop shots more comfortable with the HER. I believe the more expensive Kiso Hinoki and the thicker layer of it makes the difference here. In particular on blocks with the ABS anti on the HER, the blade seems to absorb some power making it easier to block short.

Control

This is the category for me where the HER shines better than ANY other blade I have tested so far also better than the RE which is certainly a high control blade. For me the combination of feel, touch, stiffness and the speed make for a perfect control. With the HER I can feel the ball better on impact and then guide it to wherever I want to whereas the RE has a little bit of a deader or more deaf feeling.

Dwell/Spin

Dwell time and spin generation on looping as well as serving is higher for the HER due to the softer and thicker Kiso Hinoki outer layers and it is on the higher end of blades I have tested so far. Slightly better in this category was the TSP Black Blizzard Carbon (TSP BB) blade which I used to play for quite a while until the new Hercules came around. Again, the RE is good in this department but the HER is better.

Throw Angle

The throw of the HER is somewhat but not dramatically higher than that of the RE making it easier for me to open on underspin; I had a little trouble initially to open with the RE maybe because I was used the high throw of the TSP BB. With T05 on forehand it would call the throw angle of both blades in the medium range but not as high as for example the TSP BB blade. I also found the HER very comfortable in terms of throw with the Joola Rhyzm, still in the medium range but slightly lower than with T05.

Looping

I really liked looping with the HER essentially from the very first shot both with T05 and Rhyzm. I had loads of control but enough power at the table. With the T05 I was able to generate a little bit more spin with the HER compared to RE and loops also had more of an arc. Because of this, I was able to get some shots with the HER still on the table which I would miss with the RE but these were shots in more like extreme situations. Both are very good looping blade though but I do favor the HER. Both blades would not be ideal for loop - counter loop game away from the table; the TSP BB is better in that department due to more power, spin and arc.

Blocking

I liked both blades for blocking equally good on forehand with the T05 since they are both very solid and the stiffness makes blocks very stable and consistent. Overall, both blades are very strong in this department compared to many other blades I have tested, also because they are not a bouncy and flexy. However, for blocking on the backhand with ABS anti, I liked the HER better because the thicker Kiso Hinoki plies seem to give some break effect allowing to still block very fast or powerful loops which I could not return any more with other blades I have tried before. This is a very prominent feature of the HER and it was certainly designed with that in mind to some extent.

Short game

Both blades are above average in the short game due to the high control combined with not too high speed but I see the HER having the edge in this department as it plays a little bit softer and slower in the low gears. I like how I can place balls very short with the anti as this disrupts opponents in particular drop shots against choppers.

Conclusions

The Dr. Neubauer Hercules is a great new All+ to Off- blade with outstanding control on all shots designed for an attacking game close to the table which works very well with Tenergy or Tensor rubbers and can also be combined with “junk” rubbers such as anti. It is high-end blade using top of line materials such as beautiful Kiso Hinoki and excellent craftsmanship comparable to Butterfly or other high-end brands. It is the best blade I have ever tried with ABS anti in terms of control, attacking possibilities but more importantly spin reversal. It is not on the cheap side (currently $152 at paddle palace or at Dr. Neubauer) but people don’t seem to hesitate to shell out >$150 for a Butterfly composite blade. Everybody who really liked the Joola Rosskopf Emotion will love the new Hercules blade because in my opinion it is better in all aspects except that it might be a tad slower; the HER has better control, touch and feel and generates more spin.

Below you will find 3 videos showing some techniques with the Hercules blade (T05 max and ABS 1.2 rubbers are used here) on forehand and backhand.

1. Forehand drills: push on underspin (us), opening loop on us, loop against block
 
2. Backhand drills: random balls (topspin, underspin, no spin) into the backhand have to be
returned with different techniques; the problem here was attack against no spin balls which was address through a technique adjustment under 3.
 
3. Backhand: attack against no spin balls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXYBHaJfTsg

Edit: fixed the youtube links


Edited by Matt Pimple - 02/05/2014 at 12:57pm
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Excellent presentation Matt!Thumbs Up Sorry, the link is invalid https-duplicated!Wink
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Originally posted by nikk64 nikk64 wrote:

Excellent presentation Matt!Thumbs Up Sorry, the link is invalid https-duplicated!Wink
Thanks Nikk! I will fix the link right now, sorry about that.


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Excellent review. You do not help me with my EJ bug.
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Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:

You do not help me with my EJ bug.
Sorry pal! Wink It really is an excellent blade; it should  be a little softer, stiffer and slightly slower than your TBS. It would be very interesting to see how the Hercules work with the fx rubbers you use.
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Originally posted by Matt Pimple Matt Pimple wrote:

...Description on Dr. Neubauer’s website:

HERCULES is “the” new benchmark for combination blades.

It is made of a unique plywood composition which includes – among others – the legendary Kiso-Hinoki wood and a new type of artificial fiber.

...


wonder what that "new type of artificial fiber" is.

btw, for those who want to get one.  dandoy sells it for much less if you use their online discount code.


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Originally posted by tuco tuco wrote:

Originally posted by Matt Pimple Matt Pimple wrote:

...Description on Dr. Neubauer’s website:

HERCULES is “the” new benchmark for combination blades.

It is made of a unique plywood composition which includes – among others – the legendary Kiso-Hinoki wood and a new type of artificial fiber.

...

wonder what that "new type of artificial fiber" is.
I asked Dr. N and he did not tell me. It looks greyish-black but could really be anything...
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Wow, this is what a review should look like. Thanks
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Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

Wow, this is what a review should look like. Thanks
Thanks, glad you liked it. Embarrassed
Even though you seem to prefer those thick balsa blades which do not work at all for me (tested Dr. N Bulldog in the past).
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Matt,

Do you know where the blade is made?
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Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

Matt,

Do you know where the blade is made?
I do not...I could try to find out though.
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@matt...
Does SP w/thin sponge, 1.8 or less, work well on BH? Have you tried that yet?
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Originally posted by Matt Pimple Matt Pimple wrote:

Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

Matt,

Do you know where the blade is made?
I do not...I could try to find out though.

as far as I know, Dr N does not make their own blades.  Rendler makes most of his expensive thick balsa blades.  It will be nice to know who makes the Hercules.


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What a wonderful pleasant to read review.
If I personally stay away from thicker hinoki outer I am sure I could benefit from the lower speed compared to the 3x less expensive RE.
Those blades produced in smaller quantity by big names like Dr. N hold a certain magic, the secret composite material adding an aura of mystery on top.
Frankly if I had to break my resolution to stick with the jre for the whole 2014 I would go back to Borko or Ross, my favorite magicians with who I can talk and email for a specific design but I must confess I am intrigued and curious about your new blade.
Is it available for testing? :)

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Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

@matt...
Does SP w/thin sponge, 1.8 or less, work well on BH? Have you tried that yet?
@tiehwen: I did not test the blade with pips as I switched to anti half a year ago or so. Based on previous experience with blades that I did play with both pips and anti, typically a blade that gave high disruptive effect with anti also worked well with pips (Stiga Intensity Carbon comes to mind here). I believe the stiffness of the blade should make for good play with sp (tough I personally was more of a medium pips guy).
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Those blades produced in smaller quantity by big names like Dr. N hold a certain magic, the secret composite material adding an aura of mystery on top.
Is it available for testing? :)
I did ask Dr. N before what the artificial fiber was and he told me that he had forgotten. Not sure if he had actually forgotten or did not want to tell me. Of course it is easier to work with the custom blade guys in that regard.
I am not sure if it is available for testing but you could try to send him an email; he tends to be very responsive and friendly.
Dr. N sometimes sends me stuff for testing for other reasons...
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@matt....just "hate" LOL your review...

wow...it's quite expensive, more so than any of my favourite Moths (Viscaria, TBS, TB ALC, IF ALC, MMaze...so on so forth...)
Not to worry, if I had to try/buy it, I'd use this:

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Yes, it is not cheap but the quality is really good and the Kiso Hinoki is quite rare and expensive. But it should not be more expensive than those fancy  blades BTY you mentioned.
 
I did get an email with the Dandoy coupon as well...great deal! I say, go for it...now you "hate" me more. Wink
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shoot...Nice pics...
Now I gotta unload 1 or 2 or some of my Moths (gems as well) for this Dr. N. Hercules.....
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Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

shoot...Nice pics...
To clarify, tiehwen had asked me via pm to send him some pics of the anatomic handle. Since I have the anatomic I took a couple of shots at practice last night.
 
 
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