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Wolf
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I had yesterday the
opportunity finally to try Joola Maxxx 500 in maximum thickness .
Already long
time I wanted to know how seems to play a rubber with hard sponge and waited
for an opportunity when the opportunity presents itself Tibhar 1qxd or Joola
Maxxx 500 . Glued Joola Lex on the knife Viscaria and later Joola Rozkopf
Allround . I read here some noise about how the rubber actually feels ? Whether
it is as tough as a Blue Fire M1 ,or even harder ? I can't play after the
transition to the plastic ball with a rubber band , which on the surface feels
as hard as the M1 ,I need a little softer topshet with good adhesion . I had
great expectations from Maxxx 500 on the Viscaria ,but I was pleasantly
surprised . The overall feeling of the rubber is not at all hard as at first
glance, it sounds horrible to 50° . For me, it's even softer than Blue Fire M1
,maybe like Rakza 7 ,Aurus ? It's been a long time since I've had these tires
,but be a similar feeling ,perhaps even as harder by Baracuda . I read somewhere mentioning
that this rubber does not work well with the Plastic ball . I can't confirm
this information . In this game we had Xushaofa , Joola Flash and DHS***
celluloid and everything go well . I really like the little speed and enough
spin on slow strokes . It's amazing brush strokes with this rubber at the table
and have that kind of control in the location . I tried a long time ago MXP,
and that's slower with more control and not so scathing on the incoming spin .
Then when you really lean into the ball , you will awaken the beast that sleeps
beneath the surface and really show their claws ! Whou , I really liked the
game on the Viscaria and I'm sure I'll try one more night , whether it be the
same ? I had a couple of days ago and MXS max on Viscaria and it certainly
played as well as Maxxx500! On the contrary, after switching on the Joola
Rozkopf All where Tibhar MXS literally shines in every aspect of the game , so
Joola Maxxx500 became completely průmerným rubber . I'm not sure whether this
rubber needs a slightly flexible blade as Rozkopf Allround ?
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nv42
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The rubber being harder while in a tuned(stretched ) state pointed by many makes sense if you compare it to a simple rubber band feeling harder to press once stretched! BTW, anyone can compare the maxx500 with mxp?
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1.dhs pg2 fl
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NextLevel
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Falco Tempo long initially makes the rubber harder in ny experience.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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nv42
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Bump! Hope someone van give a good compare between mxp n joola maxx 50 :)
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1.dhs pg2 fl
-FH t05h (max) -BH tibhar genius (max) |
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nv42
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Any direct comparisons to mx-p? Kinda interested since many ppl said its like a baracuda+ lol. Loved the baracuda, not enough power behind the table tho.
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1.dhs pg2 fl
-FH t05h (max) -BH tibhar genius (max) |
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Bran
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I haven't really played with the 500 but I used the 450 which was indeed very heavily boosted, with the soapy smell, shrinking and loss of bounciness after some time.
I can't think of a booster that makes the rubber go both harder and larger though, if the sponge expands, I'd think it must go softer. There might have been some specific factors other than that. I've also had a 500 sitting in my bat case for months and months totally unplayed and it kept its hardness. |
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tmham
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I play 3-6 hours per week and my Maxxx 500 is still holding up very well after 5 months. Topsheet grip is still strong and the sponge is still hard (maybe Hans had a bad sheet?). I don't think it's heavily boosted, at least in my experience. Pretty durable IMO and yes, this feels like Barracuda on steroids (with a harder sponge)!
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Hans Regenkurt
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After hitting about 40 hours with it I felt it became dead. I put it back in its package sometime in May and left it there until Wednesday. I played with it today and to my surprise, the previously hard rubber became Joola Maxxx 300, to be ironical. The topsheet grab was still there but the sponge became insanely soft and the sheet has lost a lot of power compared to when it was new. My only logical explanation to this is that it is the heavy factory boosting it contained that kept the rubber expanded and firm when it was new.
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Hans Regenkurt
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I forgot to say that it is an option for those who are unable to play with Bluefire M1/M2 like me. The Maxxx's topsheet and the way it grabs the ball and propels it forward shows that Joola distributes an ESN product that addresses the issues with the run of the mill Bluefire line.
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Hans Regenkurt
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I got mine a week ago and I have played about 10 hours with it. I must say it is a very good rubber with very good spin capabilities. It is better for the forehand because it takes more impact to activate it than a Maxxx 450. It does not lose pace 3 meters off the table, so good job Joola. In one sentence I would describe it as Baracuda+. Compared to Rasant Powergrip: its topsheet is softer and overall it feels a little softer but faster.
In spite of all its good qualities there is still a gap between it and T05. I feel a fresh T05 offers more control when you are doing high speed counterlooping. Somehow T05 feels more solid but I think it is due to the sponge. The springsponge's capacity to condense and deliver energy into the ball is still better than the ESN sponge and as a result there is a little uncertainty for the Maxxx user on occasions, especially when fishing / lobbing. The 450 solves this problem better but its topspeed is lower unfortunately. I do not regret buying it and I will report back on how it holds up after about 60 hours of use. Edited by Hans Regenkurt - 04/18/2015 at 3:47pm |
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" It's like a bouncy Palio Thors minus the tackiness and with a softer topsheet." ....
that's very close.... Ha ha! Yogi... nice review! |
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it would feel very hard and somewhat fast. the 500 maxxx is better suited for medium stiff blades with limba outer plies or koto
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From my search more review I think Im very interest this for my bh and I want someone help me for these questions
1.this can be for bh rubber (open loop, flip on table,brush loop ) yes, if you prefer harder rubbers you can brush the ball easily in the backhand 2.Will it go down surly on table?(I mean not so long or end of table, I like safe zone not so long especially when I'm flip on the table) not hard to do flips and fairly controllable 3.it's high throw?(compare with other like tg05,el-p,bluefire,tg25) medium to high, t05 has higher throw almost same level with el-p 4.what's level of speed when compare tg(05,25,64),(1q,5q,1q VIP,1q sound, 5q VIP),evolution series almost teh same with 05, t64 is faster, 1q series is definitely faster, almost same speed with 5q vip 5.what's rubber near this in terms hardness(evolution mxp,1q,1q xd,bluefire m1)? its harder than all of the rubbers you have mentioned by 1-2 degrees
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What do you think about 7,9 or 11 ply hinoki wood with this rubber?
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From my search more review I think Im very interest this for my bh and I want someone help me for these questions
1.this can be for bh rubber (open loop, flip on table,brush loop ) 2.Will it go down surly on table?(I mean not so long or end of table, I like safe zone not so long especially when I'm flip on the table) 3.it's high throw?(compare with other like tg05,el-p,bluefire,tg25) 4.what's level of speed when compare tg(05,25,64),(1q,5q,1q VIP,1q sound, 5q VIP),evolution series 5.what's rubber near this in terms hardness(evolution mxp,1q,1q xd,bluefire m1)? U don't need answer every questions depends on your experience,so thank |
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I have MAXXX500 and MAXXX450, and I can say they are one of the best rubbers out there, on FH I just picked 1Q XD and not MAXXX 500 because the tibhar is harder and I do prefer that, on BH 450 is out of this world, I was playing yesterday and the BH loop against backspin lands in the other side and bounces very low and the guy was getting very angry with that. 1Q XD dont have that type of bouce but is very fast. If MAXXX 500 was hard like 1QXD i would go with 500,because I think it gives me more spin.
Best rubbers nowadays, 1Q Xd, 5Q, MAXXX500 and MAXXX 450 IMO
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Very yummy, and as always thanks for the informative review!
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they are world's apart because the t64 is soft, this is very hard. it has this hard feel when blocking but it's manageable. on active blocks or punch blocks i could say it's a little better. not that sensitive to spin which is good and i love doing spinny push chops with it because it pushes like a chinese rubber without tackiness. you need to adjust on drop shots as service receives because it's bouncy
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Yogi, would the Maxxx 500 be a good BH rubber, ala T64. How does it block, passive and active? Is it sensitive to incoming spin? How would you rate it in receiving serves?
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clipper wood, infinity vps, startus powerwood, adidas challenge speed, adidas challenge force
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i'd go with all wood blades especially the ones with limba outer plies
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Hi yogi_bear,
can you recommend blades which would suit the maxxx 500? |
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yogi_bear
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the maxxx 450 was less controllable than the 500 and i never find it too springy. yes it is a fast rubber but not on the level of rhyzm. rhyzm 48 is still faster than the maxxx 500. the maxxx 500 as i'm 100% sure feels like a chinese rubber without the tackiness in terms of the hard feel and the capability of brushing the ball. sorry, i never found the maxxx 500 too fast. my strokes on it are like my strokes when using neo h3 and i didn't need to adjust much.
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maybe your memory is betraying you yogi, i remember you made your review of Rhyzm long time ago. I have Rhyzm on every blade that I own, and both sides too, and I use WBG, not RC, and Rhyzm has much harder topsheet than M1 or Maxx500, and the touch and feel is completely different.
Now that I think about it i also disagree that Maxx feels like chinese rubber. The sponge is too springy. If you know a chinese rubber with such catapult I am willing to test it immediately. Perhaps other users of Maxx can weigh in, but i think its still a rather lively rubber. Especially for me, since I make almost perpendicular impact and sink the ball in the sponge as much as I can. It was rather jumpy if you manage to compress that tough sponge. I sold my Maxx500 though.. even on TBS i couldn't make it go straight. It is best for ZJK opening loops, picks up very easy.
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puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
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right2niru, sorry haven't tried the BF JP01
assiduous, i was comparing the 3 rubbers as the rhyzm closer to the m1 at least in terms of play and feel. i just can't relate the m1 and maxxx 500. they are world's apart
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@yogi : How would you compare this with Donic Bluefire JP01 ?
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Yogi, i agreed with your entire description and then I read your last line that Rhyzm is more like Bluefire than this. No way. Rhyzm is completely different feel than bluefire and different game as well. This 500, while different, is much closer to M1. Actually maxx 500 is something like harder M1. However it has the same advantages and disadvantages as M1 - ridiculously spiny even with a little brushing, but also rather poor control compared to Rhyzm. This soft grippy topsheet just bites any incoming spin and the ball refuses to go straight. For me. Rhyzm is.. exact opposite.. not good for brushing but incredible control. BH blocks with the Maxx 500 require adjustment you say. Agree completely, just don't know how much you can ultimately adjust. BH block with 48 degree Rhyzm is like pointing your finger directly where you want to go. Its just stupid easy.
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puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
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the rhyzm 48 degrees is closer to the bluefire m1 and this is not even close to the 500's hardness
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Thanks Yogi, nice review!
I was expecting it to be similar the Bluefire M1... perhaps not... |
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