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Originally posted by Fidelio Fidelio wrote:

Of course, none of this has any bearing on whether Viscaria can produce spinny loops; it's well-known that this blade can't spin the ball (Just ask Zhang Jike, Fan Zhendong (circa early 2013), Zhou Yu, Yan An, Fang Bo, Timo Boll (circa early 2000s)... Wink
That is what I read somewhere here also. That's why I had question as his loops were very spinny. He did not crush the balls pass his opponents much but they blocked the balls out.

BTW. What is Hoa Shai's EQ?
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Originally posted by aroonkl aroonkl wrote:

Originally posted by Fidelio Fidelio wrote:

Of course, none of this has any bearing on whether Viscaria can produce spinny loops; it's well-known that this blade can't spin the ball (Just ask Zhang Jike, Fan Zhendong (circa early 2013), Zhou Yu, Yan An, Fang Bo, Timo Boll (circa early 2000s)... Wink
That is what I read somewhere here also. That's why I had question as his loops were very spinny. He did not crush the balls pass his opponents much but they blocked the balls out.

BTW. What is Hoa Shai's EQ?

I meant what I said about the Viscaria as a joke, but in any case I didn't mean to be flippant regarding your question.  I can understand that you feel the Viscaria is more a speed-oriented than spin-oriented blade; I'm not sure if I agree with that, but I do think that any blade will perform differently in the hands of a highly skilled player than in the hands of an amateur.  Skilled players can produce extremely spinny shots using blades that we generally wouldn't think of as looping blades at all (most amateurs will probably find the Stiga Clipper to be more a hitting than a looping blade, for instance).  There's no reason why Shi Mingyu couldn't hit super spinny loops (rather than crushing the ball) using a Viscaria, going for spin rather than speed is more of a tactical decision on his part (and perhaps an issue of playing style) than it is a function of his equpment.

As for Hao Shuai, he actually switches his equipment around fairly often (at least his blade).  In the recent Chinese Trials for the WTTTC, I noticed that he was using the Hurricane Long 3 (with Ma Long's face on the bottom of the handle :D ) which I found a little funny.  I think that's also the blade he was using against Shi Mingyu, though it's hard to tell. As far as rubbers go, Hurricane 3 on forehand and some kind of tenergy on backhand...
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btw, i finally found what yi chi zhang was using. i took the pic when i took a lesson from him while stopping by at LYTTC before:

DHS TG825
H3 Neo
Desto F3



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kurokami Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/13/2014 at 4:03am
@fidelio i don't think it's a ma long blade. hao shuai also has a custom DHS blade himself.
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Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

btw, i finally found what yi chi zhang was using. i took the pic when i took a lesson from him while stopping by at LYTTC before:

DHS TG825
H3 Neo
Desto F3




Damn, Desto F3? After seeing him ripping BH against Cheng Li at Nationals makes me feel there's absolutely no need to use rubbers like Tenergy unless your at that level or higher. brings a new perspective to my EJing tendencies
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@vutiendat1337 he also has the spinniest high arc bh loop i've ever come across to date. he didn't use it vs shi mingyu (probably not useful for his level). yea, i'll stick with tenergy, but there really isn't a need for it yet. desto and acuda were quite popular for lower levels in his generation (they're not really ~21yo. last time i talked to him i think joshua said he was 25 or so). that taiwanese player lee chia sheng who beat damien, i think he was using desto both sides on a p700. 
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Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

@vutiendat1337 he also has the spinniest high arc bh loop i've ever come across to date. he didn't use it vs shi mingyu (probably not useful for his level). yea, i'll stick with tenergy, but there really isn't a need for it yet. desto and acuda were quite popular for lower levels in his generation (they're not really ~21yo. last time i talked to him i think joshua said he was 25 or so). that taiwanese player lee chia sheng who beat damien, i think he was using desto both sides on a p700. 


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I read that TG825 is very heavy. I think EJMaster said it was head heavy also. Not sure if it was part the reason Y C Zhang was massaging his arm all tournament at Aurora Cup. Look like his arm was hurt.
Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

btw, i finally found what yi chi zhang was using. i took the pic when i took a lesson from him while stopping by at LYTTC before:

DHS TG825
H3 Neo
Desto F3



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I'm not saying it's necessarily the case here but I've seen many Chinese coaches use a different paddle when coaching lower level players. And when they play matches, they go and get another paddle. 

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Originally posted by vutiendat1337 vutiendat1337 wrote:

Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

btw, i finally found what yi chi zhang was using. i took the pic when i took a lesson from him while stopping by at LYTTC before:

DHS TG825
H3 Neo
Desto F3




Damn, Desto F3? After seeing him ripping BH against Cheng Li at Nationals makes me feel there's absolutely no need to use rubbers like Tenergy unless your at that level or higher. brings a new perspective to my EJing tendencies
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Originally posted by sandiway sandiway wrote:

I'm not saying it's necessarily the case here but I've seen many Chinese coaches use a different paddle when coaching lower level players. And when they play matches, they go and get another paddle. 

Sandiway

Originally posted by vutiendat1337 vutiendat1337 wrote:

Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

btw, i finally found what yi chi zhang was using. i took the pic when i took a lesson from him while stopping by at LYTTC before:

DHS TG825
H3 Neo
Desto F3




Damn, Desto F3? After seeing him ripping BH against Cheng Li at Nationals makes me feel there's absolutely no need to use rubbers like Tenergy unless your at that level or higher. brings a new perspective to my EJing tendencies

no, that's his primary racket.
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Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

Originally posted by sandiway sandiway wrote:

I'm not saying it's necessarily the case here but I've seen many Chinese coaches use a different paddle when coaching lower level players. And when they play matches, they go and get another paddle. 

Sandiway

Originally posted by vutiendat1337 vutiendat1337 wrote:

Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

btw, i finally found what yi chi zhang was using. i took the pic when i took a lesson from him while stopping by at LYTTC before:

DHS TG825
H3 Neo
Desto F3




Damn, Desto F3? After seeing him ripping BH against Cheng Li at Nationals makes me feel there's absolutely no need to use rubbers like Tenergy unless your at that level or higher. brings a new perspective to my EJing tendencies

no, that's his primary racket.
With your info, I ordered one. It plays very good. It is actually my blade for tournament.
Good control and good power. Not sure why it is harder to get. Not many stores have it. I had to order a spare just in case it might be discontinued.


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Is it just me or did somebody take a sandpaper or file to that blade and do some manual labour?
It almost looks like the top sheet and sponge are also cut at a slight angle.
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