Slow motion Backhand Flip Demo

This is a demonstration by Hong Kong Division I table tennis player.
Flipping is very important in-side table technique in modern table tennis. A Step-by-Step break down tutorial in slow motion is provided.



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ByeByeAbout wrote: hi bil thanks for the video.. couple of observations.... 1) thats not a flip...maybe something was lost in the translation but trust me...that's not even close to a "flip"....for a flip you would have to open your racket a bit more....but the player in the vid does not do that....he makes a beautiful shot mind you....but that's no flip. 2)   C- for your attempt at English. regards rick

Please, restrain from quibbles.

@bbll - your channel has been added to the official MyTT list of YT channels. Thank you for your contribution!

Nice - I think I saw the shifting of the thumb again ZJK style.

Maybe it's time I attempted the thumb shift for backhand shots too...

I think I see what ByeByeAbout/rick is saying about the flip - it's not a zjk/fzd style "banana" flip but rather a straight flip or flick, kind of like a forehand flick but done on the backhand side.  In the series of instructional videos done by Ma Long on youtube, this shot is listed as "backhand flip"  (watch at 26:21 in the video), whereas the banana flip is listed as "over-the-table backhand loop".  

ByeByeAbout wrote: mts388 wrote: That clearly looks like a flip to me.  The paddle is open at the point of contact. mt for it to be a true flip the paddle would have to be another 10-15 degrees open...and the ball would have to sit on the paddle for another 1/1000th of a second.   call it what you want though...he's got excellent technique regardless of what anyone may categorize it as. regards rick

Edited by suds79 - 04/14/2014 at 1:06pm

suds79 wrote: ByeByeAbout wrote: mts388 wrote: That clearly looks like a flip to me.  The paddle is open at the point of contact. mt for it to be a true flip the paddle would have to be another 10-15 degrees open...and the ball would have to sit on the paddle for another 1/1000th of a second.   call it what you want though...he's got excellent technique regardless of what anyone may categorize it as. regards rick This is a joke right? You're messing with us right? Where's candid camera? We're quibbling over 10-15 degrees? Really? It's a flip and yes, not everybody will do it exactly the same at the exact same angle. But it's a flip. You want to call it a flick. Fine. But we're losing the point of this thread. This is yet another great video form this channel helping us all attack short serves better. Keep up the good work.

no jk. Throw angle is discussed in degrees,why not everything else?? Rgrds

Edited by ByeByeAbout - 04/14/2014 at 2:07pm

Imago wrote: In TT Coaching Wiki, there is no discrimination between flip and flick http://www.tabletennisdb.com/coachwiki/17-flip-flick/

thanks for the link imago...i read the definition and it's not as comprehensive and it could be...since it makes no distinction between the two....  

table tennis is a game of nuances so it's not a waste of time to discuss the difference between a flick and a flip...and how best to perform each of these strokes... and when

jiang jialiang and i discussed the differences in detail and he remains to this day, imho, one of the best ph flipers/flickers to ever live....

i'm simply passing on the information that a two time world champ was kind enough to share with me..

regards
rick


Edited by ByeByeAbout - 04/14/2014 at 4:55pm

A great slow/stop motion video. It really makes the action of the stroke very clear. You set a very high standard for video demonstrations.

Edited by sandiway - 04/15/2014 at 12:15am