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oh what a deal!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Reinecke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/29/2014 at 9:43am
Why would it be in the OFF section and not OFF+?

I saw both ZJK super zlc and MJ super zlc were in this category, but the regular version is in OFF+.

Are they saying it is slower?
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Now that the blade is here....i want to see reviews nowLOL
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wow only 339.99.. definitely a steal! LOLCry
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Who's gonna be the 1st sucker?
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Who's gonna be the 1st sucker?

I am...
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Originally posted by gatz gatz wrote:

Now that the blade is here....i want to see reviews nowLOL

I will be doing two reviews next week.

Mizutani Super ZLC and the Nittaku Meister 
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I have Jun Mizutani and getting Jun Mizutani Super ZLC in about 7-10 business days so I can add some comments later.
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Combo would be Jun Mizutani Super ZLC with Tenergy 05 on both sides
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Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

Originally posted by gatz gatz wrote:

Now that the blade is here....i want to see reviews nowLOL

I will be doing two reviews next week.

Mizutani Super ZLC and the Nittaku Meister 

Am looking forward to it since jm is almost the same as amultart...
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Just ordered the blade, probably hit with it for a couple hours before i remember how much i hate carbon. Then i'll be selling it for about 250$ anyone want to reserve their spot in me selling the blade?
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If it's FL handle then I'm interested.
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Originally posted by PeonEater PeonEater wrote:

If it's FL handle then I'm interested.
it is.
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can somebody who hit with this blade please give a review?  even a brief one...we are starving.  It would be really nice to hear a comparison btw this blade and the MJ.
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Originally posted by bschap bschap wrote:

can somebody who hit with this blade please give a review?  even a brief one...we are starving.  It would be really nice to hear a comparison btw this blade and the MJ.

im more interested in seeing the difference between the zjk super zlc than the previous mj
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such a great deal...Butterfly goes down little by little with almost same blade to find out where is Break Even point for ppl. Wait for Fan Zhendong Super Carbon :), It will be 300 :).

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Originally posted by iakovka iakovka wrote:

such a great deal...Butterfly goes down little by little with almost same blade to find out where is Break Even point for ppl. Wait for Fan Zhendong Super Carbon :), It will be 300 :).

it doesn't matter what they charge, we'll be whipping out our credit cards regardless just to feel the new "Magic"
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Buy&sell, the Mizutani should have limba top, while the ZJK has koto.
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Originally posted by gatz gatz wrote:

Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

Originally posted by gatz gatz wrote:

Now that the blade is here....i want to see reviews nowLOL

I will be doing two reviews next week.

Mizutani Super ZLC and the Nittaku Meister 

Am looking forward to it since jm is almost the same as amultart...

Jun Mizutani almost the same as amultart??? Completely different blades!
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Originally posted by Bran Bran wrote:

Buy&sell, the Mizutani should have limba top, while the ZJK has koto.

better yet. I hated the zjk
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on the Butterfly NA website they list the JM Super ZLC as "OFF" and the orig JM as "OFF+".  Comments?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Reinecke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/31/2014 at 5:26pm
Originally posted by bschap bschap wrote:

on the Butterfly NA website they list the JM Super ZLC as "OFF" and the orig JM as "OFF+".  Comments?

I was wondering the same thing, above. May be a mislabel? 
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Originally posted by Reinecke Reinecke wrote:

Originally posted by bschap bschap wrote:

on the Butterfly NA website they list the JM Super ZLC as "OFF" and the orig JM as "OFF+".  Comments?

I was wondering the same thing, above. May be a mislabel? 

I was wondering the same thing too, it might be a mislabel.  Anyhow, I'll find out next week.
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Originally posted by bschap bschap wrote:

on the Butterfly NA website they list the JM Super ZLC as "OFF" and the orig JM as "OFF+".  Comments?

In european catalogue the Jum Mizutani is OFF rated.The JM SZLC still doesn't excists.
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It seems to me the zjk szlc is more adapted to the new ball. Does it make sense? Because the harder outer?
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I wouldn't speculate on this. You could just as well say limba is better for spin, which the new ball reduces, hence is better than koto, etc.
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The blade is amazing. Recieved it yesterday and just got a chance to hit with it. T05 on the back and 80 on the front, flared. The key to using this blade is be confident in your strokes. If you aren't you'll be punished for it. It's one of those blades where the more you put into it the more you'll get out of it. I would say the sweet spot is large but that would be an understatement. The sweet spot is the whole blade.... Fast loops spinny loops are made easy by this blade with a confident stroke as the seems to have a high throw but then dips rapidly with my topspin strokes. Also the blade has enough speed for hitters to fall in love. getting the power for the a hit is simple as well and the blade is extremely controlled. Almost like magic. Counterlooping far from the table was made easy as well. The only downside to the blade for me is that it came out to being 92 grams. I like a lighter blade and believe this blade surpasses the original mizutani blade in just about every aspect.
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How is speed & dwell time as compared to MJ?
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Originally posted by buy&sellblades buy&sellblades wrote:

The blade is amazing. Recieved it yesterday and just got a chance to hit with it. T05 on the back and 80 on the front, flared. The key to using this blade is be confident in your strokes. If you aren't you'll be punished for it. It's one of those blades where the more you put into it the more you'll get out of it. I would say the sweet spot is large but that would be an understatement. The sweet spot is the whole blade.... Fast loops spinny loops are made easy by this blade with a confident stroke as the seems to have a high throw but then dips rapidly with my topspin strokes. Also the blade has enough speed for hitters to fall in love. getting the power for the a hit is simple as well and the blade is extremely controlled. Almost like magic. Counterlooping far from the table was made easy as well. The only downside to the blade for me is that it came out to being 92 grams. I like a lighter blade and believe this blade surpasses the original mizutani blade in just about every aspect.


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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

How is speed & dwell time as compared to MJ?
The MJ is actually the blade i stuck with the longest and loved more than any other blade. I recommend it to anyone and everyone. the dwell time is very short which suprised me because it had such a soft feel. I guess i forgot to mention the feel. Although it's hard it has some flex which allows you to feel the ball very well, which is why looping is so fluid with it. Much faster than the MJ but somehow more controlled. It felt magical to me. If only i could get one around 86grams. I felt like i was swinging around a weight.
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