Butterfly Jun Mizutani Super ZLC

kucharski wrote: Hi guys, can someone compare Jm szlc to Xiom Vega pro blade? Does they have the same characteristics? Tnx

Even regular JM is faster than XVP. But XVP has much more control.

My findings so far:
Great on serves, spinny and also fast serves are great and accurate.
Backhand block, spin, counter spin is the best I experienced so far
Forehand of the bounce is really safe fast and spiny little chance to be returned
Counter loops are just joyful and out of this world due to its bounciness and little sensitivity to in coming spin.
Pushes are low and frustrating for the opponent
Short game: flicks are just great , drop shots are dead as it is insensitive to incoming spin. But if you misread the opponent serve it is a disaster and is unforgivable at all.
And as other members found it is solid crisp consistent and a joy to play with, really as if you are making love:)

gromousse wrote: Softer is softer, opposite to harder, I'm talking about the feeling when you hit the ball. I think "control" is really personal thing. The viscaria sends balls with higher throw than mizu SZLC. It´s better for some players but I was always shooting balls away with it, especially when I was blocking. By the way I think Mizu is more powerful than viscaria (old or new). I was playing T64fx on viscaria whereas I can't control T80fx on mizu, I can only manage with T05fx's speed, and don't imagine one second living with T64fx on mizu. Even my H3 was dynamite on the mizu. For new balls I don't know. I feel I can produce more spin with Mizu and it's definitely more powerful than viscaria. But plastic balls seem to oblige to always move forward. And no blade will help you for that.

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I find both ZJk SZLC & MJ SZLC have similar plays except that ZJk SZLC is good from near to mid distance while MSZLC is better from mid to far from the table. When I made a full power return from serve I tend to overhit the table with MJ SZLC which does not happen when I use the ZJk SZLC. In addition I feel ZJk SZLC has got a softer feel even though it is more bouncy than MJ SZLC in short play. I think if you have both blades (I happen to test my friend's MJ SZLC) you can use ZJK SZLC you're still fresh and the MJ SZLC when you are a bit tired. I have both AN & FL versions of ZJK SZLC & I could trade one with MJ SZLC if anyone is interested to test it as I like to further test/compare these 2 blades without forking additional extra bucks.

Edited by limjo - 11/12/2014 at 2:46am

Just read your post and the same for me. After a long long layoff I came back to TT and made a mistake of going for the best. Hugh mistake!!!
If I keep at it I may be able to use it someday but for me now I use the Infinity VPS V and I'm happy.

JM SZLC is a lot bouncier than TBS. Yes, everybody says it has a great control but it is for an OFF+ blade. You just can not compare the control of TBS with JM SZLC. I played 1 year with  JM SZLC and switched back to Viscaria because of the control. Short game is good but it depends of the hand too ;) The JM SZLC is a blade for pro level players.

I played both, viscaria is spinnier but mj szlc has a larger sweet spot thus better control feedback. If you like the spin characteristics of viscaria and the the sharp feel of szlc go for mizutani zlc it has both and the best blade ever off the table (2-3 meters )

Stiffer than TBS. One of the stiffest blades available.

Hardness: On very soft hits, TBS is softer. Otherwise, MJ-SZLC is softer.

Never played with GC

You got the new version of the blade

ijuin you have the new deisign blade. You have 100% legit stuff.