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Baal
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Pongster94 made a deal with KLHfans to trade a ZJK-T5000 for a Korbel with used rubber and 45 USD. After receiving the Korbel and the money, he did not like the condition of the blade or rubber. KLH has not received the ZJK, which was never shipped. KLH offered to reverse the deal since Pongster was unhappy. While this was going on, Pongster offered the ZJK to multiple people in trades. That bothers me a lot (because of the timing, since at that time he already had received money and the Korbel). Meanwhile he offers strange stories about his PayPal being frozen, so he can send or receive money but not add money to his paypal account. His explanations about his PayPal seem highly implausible to me, and in any case, if your PayPal is messed up, you have no business trying to make deals here. As of now, KLH has not had his Korbel returned, or had his 45 bucks refunded, or alternatvely received the ZJK. On at least one other buy/sell forum (not related to TT) we have learned that people don't want to deal with Pongster and give him a low rating as a seller/buyer. This cannot be ignored. Pongster94 now claims he has shipped a blade to KLH (I don't know if it is the Korbel or the ZJK) and another to fatt (a different transaction). We will see. We have been applying pressure to get him to do that. Issues with PayPal shoul not affect ones ability to go to the post office.
I will keep members informed. If the bades actuaaly are received bt fatt and KLH, I will post that here. Pongster might want to avoid arrogant posting in the meantime, as he brought this onto himself. I am willing to post his name, address, home phone, email, cell phone, and facebook page if this is not resolved, in a way that will appear on Google searches. |
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Pongster94
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Cool glad I scammed people not you guys are just making things worse again none of you are investigators so again when the blades arrive give me my credit.
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Poseidon
Super Member Joined: 09/21/2016 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 291 |
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He's definitely a scammer. No doubt. He had a post looking for used Tenergies. I contacted him with pics of some of my rubbers for sale. He said multiple times during our communication that he would take them, but just wouldn't pay whatsoever. I was so naive to agree to keep the rubbers for him until 12/30 (which would be 5 days after he said he would take the rubbers), but I don't think he'll ever get back to me again. Please avoid him.
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tiehwen
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what's wrong with this kinda ppl these days? They lost their moral compass or what or may be they never have any. They can't tell the differences btwn Right & Wrong? May be it's their upbringing which contributed to their unethical & dishonest behaviors & conducts?
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Baal
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Do not deal with Pongster94, maybe named Chris (Lin) Lee from Maryland/DC area (Glen Burnie, MD). Probable scammer. Offered blade in trade that he had already sold to someone else. Several failed and extremely suspicious transactions. Unreliable user of PayPal at the very least.
Also goes by Jong Min Lee, and maybe Lin Lee. Goes by Chris. |
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Danthespearton
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holy moly! long history of scammers, oh man.
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Baal
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Do not buy blades from Hamilton2016
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Jonyherr
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Baal
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The member known as chrisger is a scammer. His real name is Christoph Heid, and he lives and plays in Lauf a.d. Pegnitz near Nürnberg in Germany. He accepts money for blades and then sometimes does not ship them and does not respond to emails. Blades he sells may have reduced head size or other modifications. The blades he offers are often those of another German fellow named Robert B. who is not active on the internet.
He committed at least three cases of this kind of fraud on German table tennis forums where he used the name "chrismfr". See here: http://forum.tt-news.de/showpost.php?p=2644505&postcount=2848 It seems he has struck again, here: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73920&title=fs-butterfly-powerdrive-ii-fl-very-good He may use a variety of email addresses. |
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Baal
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Not sure yet what to say about this. Certainly not the same problems as some others but needs to be mentioned. Shay2be advertised several new Stradivarius blades. He shipped the blades but when buyers received them there was glue residue on them. I suggested to him sending back a partial refund to buyers since a blade with glue residue is not exactly new. He seems to not think he should make any restitution to buyers based on his pm to buyers. He has not responded to my pm. Ok. But I would say that calling something that is "like new" to be "actually new" is not entirely honest. Obviously that is not the same thing is some of the scams described earlier on this thread. Still, it needs to be mentioned.
Edit added. Several other members have communicated with me that they have had dealings with Shay2be in which he revealed himself less than honest. So far, nobody has lost money on anything. But enough incidents have taken place that I cannot recommend that anybody buy from him. |
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Baal
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OK, now it seems we have to add gemaxed to the list. Ray and giangt warned me that they didn't think this guy was on the up and up, but at the time I didn't have enough hard evidence. Now it is clear. Banned.
http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?11611-Viscaria-old-tag |
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Baal
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Do not make deals with the member known as Chanyboi
On OOAK forum he goes by SilverFox. An Australian at one point living in Japan. |
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Baal
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Meanwhile, finspin created a thread to sell blades, including an Allure blade. Several people noted that the blade did not look authentic. That obviously made readers hesitant to buy, as it should. So what did finspin do?
He created a new thread to sell that same blade. No picture. No price. You want to see the blade? You need to PM him. Given his prior track record on this forum as a seller, that is unacceptable. He never explained why he received payment for one blade and after that, attempted to sell the same blade to another seller. We let him back because Avallo intervened, and finspin eventually did send the blade to the first buyer. I was reluctant, but I agreed, but I have been trying to keep an eye out. This is an obvious attempt to be deceptive and he is now banned and I will not let him back. People who scam on the for sale part of this forum are given a very short leash. If you troll the other parts of the forum, you are just making people mad. You will probably be given second and third chances. First bans are rarely permanent. If you scam in this section, you are stealing from people, a more severe matter altogether. |
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Baal
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I need for the member known as Sportsfanatic1 to contact me ASAP about a transaction carried out here that does not appear to be above board. Please respond to my PM or post in this thread.
This member is James Buck, 708 Del Mar Ln, Arlington Texas, 76012. If there are any members in the Dallas area who know this person, can you let me know? Update. This member was given three weeks to address the scam allegation and never replied to buyer or to me. Permanent ban. |
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finspin
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sorry not like that, no matter what do u think No problem for me |
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Timo1978
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Come on, you had an extremly questionable Transaction here and now you are playing cry-cry baby and want to judge about other cases? Lol. |
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finspin
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its ok Baal, i think you have finish other case from scammer in mytt because other case not clear like the first in thread and very very Xtreme, IMHO
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Baal
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Finspin still has several for sale threads here. He is not banned from the website, but I would use extreme caution dealing with him.
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Baal
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Finspin has finally shipped the blade and has provided me with a tracking number. Hopefully Magic_M will get it soon. I am not quite ready to take Finspin off this list because there is no explanation as yet to why he attempted to sell the same rare Cresail blade to another member here long after having received payment from Magic_M! That does not pass the smell test. The explanations I received for the entire episode strain credibility, and I personally suspect (but cannot prove) that the only reason he sent the blade at all is under pressure from a countryman who agreed to intervene (and who has helped us before).
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Baal
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I think we need to add finspin to this list. He sold a Cresail to Magic_M who in spite of my warnings used Paypal as a gift. $350 sent to Indonesia. Finspin did not ship the blade and told Magic_M he was waiting to get it from Japan. Pretty strange excuse in itself. If yo say you are going to sell a blade normally it means you have it. And then we learn that well after he received the money from Magic_M , finspin was negotiating with another member in Croatia to sell the same blade! Finspin has not refunded the money, shipped the blade or returned PMs.
Edit. Another member in Indonesia is making contact with finspin (knows him) in an attempt to resolve this. We shall see. |
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Baal
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Yes, that is for sure, and I want to think that is what is going on with this person, probably more so once he gets a few years older. But we have to be careful here. If someone is scamming because they need the money or because they are somewhat crazy, and then they stop, is it temporary based on some improvement in their circumstances or their brain function? If the economic or neurochemical pressures return, will this person once again scam people? Or are we wrong about the person trying to self-improve and is there a plan in place to carry out a larger scam again? The one place we need to be extra careful is in the For Sale section. If someone gets their feelings hurt because of arguments about plastic balls or the best Tenergy alternatives, or whatever, at the end of the day, it is a ping pong forum, and so in the worst case (on very rare occasions), someone gets banned a little while and we usually let them come back at least a few times. But when there is blade scamming and identity theft, that is something completely different. We have to watch out for our members. Mainly though, as you say, sad. The last thing is that several other members have helped me some with this current situation in figuring out that NoRema is Cameron. |
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tommyzai
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Deal with people who care more about their reputation than money.
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Baal
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Ray
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And his username is anagram of his real name (NoRema=(C)ameRoN). Maybe he really wanted one more chance. The fact that he had another opportunity to scam more people at MyTT is why we should be concerned.
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jabemu
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Yes, he has more than 500 post being a member from two months ago (Feb 2015!!). Some of his posts are very annoying... not typical of a new member. |
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flamingmdn
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OMG, even the guy with good feedback & a lot of messages appears to be a scammer... Mad world.
I will probably never understand whats going on in these scammers' heads. Really, what's the point? You spend a lot of time here to comment, to buy & sell... to finally make few 'strikes' and gain few hundred bucks on scamming? It is more profitable to invest this time into getting money in fair way, isn't it? Of course it is possible that he is really trying to 'turn his life around', but how we can know?
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Timo1978
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Thank you for the warning and discovering his real identity!
I am sure he was already trying to "work" on his reputation to scam even more members. Nice to see how this guy was trying to gain trust by having an average of 8! Posts each day and commenting on everything... |
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aroonkl
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Hey, progress, at least he shipped the blade. In the past he didn't bother to do that. But still a less than honest transaction. =================================== He might intend to build some good reps first in aiding to strike BIG.
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angelleye
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Follow up to @limjo's list...
PayPal increased the 45 day limit for disputes to 180 days as of last fall.
Edited by angelleye - 04/13/2015 at 1:16am |
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