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    Posted: 08/03/2014 at 5:16pm
This is the list of verified MyYY For Sale thread scammers since 2014.  I will keep this list updated.  I usually ban members permanently when their scamming is verified.  So this list is not necessarily going to help you, since people end up on this list after the fact.  I also need to keep lines of communications open and so cannot ban people immediately in every instance.  However, I was asked to compile this list and keep it as the first entry on the thread, so here it is.  Note that some people have used multiple identities (and have appeared as commenters on this thread, which takes chutzpah).  If you plan to buy or sell here, I do recommend reading through this thread.  It is quite illuminating. Please, be careful!  If you are not sure, check the feedback section.  Be careful with new members and be careful with Paypal.  Note too, about 99% of transactions here go without any problems.

Chanyboi aka Silver Fox

Sadistic Clown aka Buys&Sells Blades aka Loopy Looper aka EJoslin aka Makira aka NoRema

Gemaxed

Shay2be

Bacardi aka Pokjess

Chrisger

Hamilton2016

Andrei2412

Pongster94 aka Jkpro05 aka Pingpongplaya

Jjf26220 aka Halse Jaso aka Joe Finch

Mr. Gogool

Perssonblade

Finspin

JoeWilmar aka Johankrox aka Actheroes

riky

worldsports11.com and tabletennispro11.com (the guy promoting these sites keeps creating new identities)



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thanks, I was thinking of buying something from Buys&SellsBlades
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I hope all members will be careful with how they use paypal. 
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Woow! i paid via gift paypal 150$ yesterday for a Butterfly blade. Hope i´m not scammed...
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I paid $110 via Paypal gift for a Nittaku blade on 08/01. He did say he's gonna ship it the same day. Hope he didn't lie.
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4.5% is so little on the figures you are quoting as payments, you are saving $7 to lose $150 
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Originally posted by BigBH BigBH wrote:

4.5% is so little on the figures you are quoting as payments, you are saving $7 to lose $150 
Yes, you are 100% right Cry
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Gift payment should be banned by pay pal. Never use this option otherwise you can't get your money back. 
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I paid this guy $125 as gift payment 10 days ago for a blade and he's been telling me every day that he mailed it the same day but I know now that the blade will never come, I hope he is gonna return my money soon .

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Yes, i am working on getting everyone their money back. a little patience would be appreciated and i'm truly sorry to each of you that i've wronged. a couple of you will actually be getting your products though because they are things that i really did have. mdman, you're next to recieve your money back btw.
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I think people need to look at the feedback section more before making a purchase. Anyone can be a scumbag and if they aren't known for being honest we shouldn't trust them.

Edited by EJoslin - 08/04/2014 at 8:38pm
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Originally posted by buy&sellblades buy&sellblades wrote:

Yes, i am working on getting everyone their money back. a little patience would be appreciated and i'm truly sorry to each of you that i've wronged. a couple of you will actually be getting your products though because they are things that i really did have. mdman, you're next to recieve your money back btw.

You are doing the right thing to return my money, I hope you refund my money soon.
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Be aware that EJoslin is the same person as Buy&sellblades and SadistiClown, and this person's behavior is unfathomable and obsessive (since this person commented in this thread !!!).  On websites like this, banned members can come back like zombies and this can be hard to police.  Cameron, I really think you need help.  I think you can enjoy table tennis without being on a table tennis forum.  It would really be best for you. 

I would strongly recommend that people not use the paypal gift option, and also I would suggest that it is not reasonable for sellers here to demand it.

The vast majority of transactions here go off smoothly, and when they don't, members usually handle things themselves in a fair manner and it never comes to the attention of a moderator.  Once in a while we have to intervene. 

Read the rules, and be careful!  We have discussed having a rule against allowing sellers to demand the gift option of Paypal.  For now we have decided to allow buyers and sellers to make whatever arrangements they wish.  But I would personally never agree to it and I don't see why you should either.
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Hey friends, this guy is telling me that he has refunded the money everyone. Is that true?
And he says that i´m lucky because Paypal doesn´t warrant a refund of a gifted payment. I´m still waiting for my money. His obligation is to refund my money even if i paid like a gift. What´s the difference? 


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No, he hasn't refunded me yet. 
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Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

No, he hasn't refunded me yet. 

I asked my bank to refund my paypal receipt, and i have got my money back. I see in my paypal account that this guy has not refunded it. Buy i finally got my money thanks to my bank.
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Perhaps those of you needing refunds could keep me updated here.
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I don't have my refund yet ! I really hope he l can get it today.
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Nope, not going to happen, he is just buying time.
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thanks was thinking of buying something from him
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Same here still waiting for refund. 
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:


I would strongly recommend that people not use the paypal gift option, and also I would suggest that it is not reasonable for sellers here to demand it.

Paypal fee is 2.9% plus $.30.  That means for a $100 sale the fee is $3.20.  What kind of seller would not absorb $3.20 on a $100 sale???


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Originally posted by Antuan Antuan wrote:

Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

No, he hasn't refunded me yet. 

I asked my bank to refund my paypal receipt, and i have got my money back. I see in my paypal account that this guy has not refunded it. Buy i finally got my money thanks to my bank.

You are lucky, in Belgium that would have been impossible. If paid as gift and not received, then it is lost.
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Originally posted by tuco tuco wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:


I would strongly recommend that people not use the paypal gift option, and also I would suggest that it is not reasonable for sellers here to demand it.

Paypal fee is 2.9% plus $.30.  That means for a $100 sale the fee is $3.20.  What kind of seller would not absorb $3.20 on a $100 sale???



same thing to minimise your risk why not pay the $3.20
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Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Originally posted by Antuan Antuan wrote:

Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

No, he hasn't refunded me yet. 

I asked my bank to refund my paypal receipt, and i have got my money back. I see in my paypal account that this guy has not refunded it. Buy i finally got my money thanks to my bank.


You are lucky, in Belgium that would have been impossible. If paid as gift and not received, then it is lost.

Yes, but can't you deny the payment from your Bank? I have returned my paypal receipt.
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My paypal is linked with my credit card, once the payment is marked as completed, the money is gone and you can't do anything about it if it has been sent as gift. 
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Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

My paypal is linked with my credit card, once the payment is marked as completed, the money is gone and you can't do anything about it if it has been sent as gift. 

Ahhh my paypal is linked with my bank account.....
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Originally posted by Antuan Antuan wrote:

 
Ahhh my paypal is linked with my bank account.....

Granted I don't know the nitty gritty details, but to me, that seems to be the scariest scenario of all...
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by Antuan Antuan wrote:

 
Ahhh my paypal is linked with my bank account.....


Granted I don't know the nitty gritty details, but to me, that seems to be the scariest scenario of all...


My PayPal is linked to both my bank account and my credit card. Has been for years actually.
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He just refunded my money and emailed me saying that he will refund everyone's money. He is asking everyone to email him at kuxforever@live.com
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