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1-ply Hinoki blade brittle? |
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shaolinTT
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Posted: 08/16/2014 at 11:15pm |
I have never tried a J Pen blade but am thinking of getting one.
I have viewed reviews of single ply hinoki blade splitting right down the middle. Is it a common problem or occurrence? Any recommendations for a first time J Pen blade (single sided) inverted or SP? (I play ok close to the table C Pen). Thanks!
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aeoliah
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Just do not go below 9 mm thickness, and you are on the safe side. Besides, I read only about 3 incidents of splitting on 8,5 mm thickness.
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haggisv
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Yes it's rare for it to happen, but it does happen on occasions... as aeoliah suggested already, thicker makes it stronger.
BTW I would not call them 'brittle'... if they do split, they split along the grain of the fibres. |
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proSpin
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Yes. Single ply hinoki blades are very brittle. My friend plays 10mm ones. So far, broke 2 already, as in the blade split in the middle along the grains. Lucky for him, a professional blade restorer helped him glued back the blade. Looks as good as new, not much difference in feeling according to him, probably just the psychological part.
Edited by proSpin - 08/17/2014 at 2:09am |
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Tassie52
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Taken from American Hinoki (Blade care section):
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jackass22
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Try avalox hado. Its 9 ply hinoki. Its more usefull in competion thqn 1 ply hinoki. 1 ply hikoky is funny blade but in competion useless due catapult.
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yylik
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You sure about this? Ryu Seung min used it to win a Olympic gold medal. |
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jackass22
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Are you Ryu? Do you have training 8 hour daily?
I think that most player dont have control for their off blade and tenergy and this equipment is not very convinient for them(loose control). My first blade was nitaku acoustic and this time i dont have personal skills for this blade(but i played with acoustic because some good players played with this). After changing it for donic diablo senso(all+) i learned better topspin, chops and i increased my succes in competion about 50%... |
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ChichoFicho
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1-ply hinoki is still the best choice for a penhold player. Unless you try to destroy the table it won't split.
If you intend to use short pips, then the best choice would be Darker Speed 70 round. If you intend to use inverted, then go with Darker Speed 90. |
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shaolinTT
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Thank you, guys. I appreciate all your comments.
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ybok
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My Darker Speed 90 shakehand and Butterfly Tamaropa shakehand blades both would split about once a year. I got very good at repairing them. I think shakehand blades are more prone to splitting than penholds.
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qualizon
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hi ybok, do you mind to share how do you repair your splitted hinoki blade?
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thethinker
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One ply hinoki has a tendency to split if you are not careful, but the good news is that you can glue it back and it's good as new, same feeling and stiffness. Just use wood glue like Gorilla wood glue and clamps.
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yylik
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Ok bro! I understand now after reading your explanation. You have a point :) |
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ybok
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"hi ybok, do you mind to share how do you repair your splitted hinoki blade?"
This is what I do to try to keep the blade flat after gluing. Remove the rubbers. Apply wood glue to entire length of the split, if possible
do not completely separate the two halves of the blade. It is easier to manage if the blade is not in
two pieces. It seems that hinoki splits
very cleanly and folds together very nicely. Put the two halves of the blade together and keep them in
line top to bottom and side to side.
Make sure that the face of the blade is flat, the blade face should not be
tilted either way. I have no special tools for this, so I get a large clamp
and very gently and very lightly clamp the sides of the blade. Use very little pressure, just enough to keep
the clamp on. Remove any glue that has oozed from the split on both sides of the blade. Place a flat board on each face of the blade. The boards should cover the entire blade side
to side and top to bottom. They should be
slightly smaller than the width of the blade and not interfere with the side
clamp. You might want to cover each
blade face with wax paper to keep any excess glue from sticking to the boards. Use another clamp to press these boards together. This will ensure that the blade face will be
flat and aligned. Tighten the side clamp a bit more. Be careful not to damage the sides of the
blade, hinoki is very soft. Wait the glue to dry and then remove all clamps. Check the blade and remove any excess glue. Careful, the glue is harder than the hinoki
and can be hard to remove without damaging the blade. |
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