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Good feedback Tassie! Thumbs Up

Even though they seem to win me more points too (prossible for the same reason Embarrassed), I can't get myself to like them (yet)...
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I noticed the comment "they dumb the game down."  This is what I was trying to say in the other thread.  This is why I think older players will suffer.  "Old man tricks," as we say in basketball, are going to suffer.
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I think that's a fair description to be honest, but it is better than the random elements you get with some of the other plastic balls.  Definitely harder to serve with really heavy spin but with a little practice you rediscover how to be deceptive.  All of the polyballs have less spin, it comes with the size. 
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I think that's a fair description to be honest, but it is better than the random elements you get with some of the other plastic balls.  Definitely harder to serve with really heavy spin but with a little practice you rediscover how to be deceptive.  All of the polyballs have less spin, it comes with the size. 
What annoys me the most is getting a level of backspin that people can't override with power.  My push is lighter with the new ball and it is harder to keep the ball short and low.
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regarding the reviews on which balls were best that had XSF at the top, are those only in ref to the 3* balls? we bought XSF training balls and they were pretty bad though don't have a comparison at the same quality level from other brands. it's just that celluloid training balls were still similar in performance. for the plastic, their 1* played very different from the 3* DHS and those again were different from the Joola 3*.

** so the current best plastic ball is Nittaku Premium? 


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I have received the XSF 3* balls from ttnpp. Last night I was able to hit it with one guy right after I played celluloid balls with another person. My feel after the very first hit was like "WOW. I can't tell the difference". XSF balls are very close to old balls in terms of the feels, as well as the bounces. I don't feel the heaviness that I felt in other seamed plastic balls. However, in terms of the spin generation, XSF balls are the same as others.
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SEAMLESS BALLS   WILL FAVOUR THE DEFENDERS (because of the better bounce)    

Chinese Sports magazine has now came out with an article about some practical study of the three types of the balls now in general use in China..   The study proved in all evidence that the seamless plastic monosphere is the best BOUNCY ball.,   and therefore it is playing to the defender's hand best of all.

I have to fully agree with the article as to the seamless better elasticity..   Our domestic senior celebrity, whose play takes much after Shiono syntetic defensive play, did prefer Yinhe seamless to DHS seamed, after he found Yinhe is a ball easier to slap dowm.


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igorponger discussed about a Chinese article: 

" the seamless plastic monosphere is the best BOUNCY ball.,   and therefore it is playing to the defender's hand best of all."
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The Chinese article said this:  "the seamless plastic monosphere is the best BOUNCY ball".   

But the Chinese article did NOT say this:  "and therefore it is playing to the defender's hand best of all."


 

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Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

regarding the reviews on which balls were best that had XSF at the top, are those only in ref to the 3* balls? we bought XSF training balls and they were pretty bad though don't have a comparison at the same quality level from other brands. it's just that celluloid training balls were still similar in performance. for the plastic, their 1* played very different from the 3* DHS and those again were different from the Joola 3*.

** so the current best plastic ball is Nittaku Premium? 


Yes, and yes, only the 3* balls.
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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

SEAMLESS BALLS   WILL FAVOUR THE DEFENDERS (because of the better bounce)    

Chinese Sports magazine has now came out with an article about some practical study of the three types of the balls now in general use in China..   The study proved in all evidence that the seamless plastic monosphere is the best BOUNCY ball.,   and therefore it is playing to the defender's hand best of all.

I have to fully agree with the article as to the seamless better elasticity..   Our domestic senior celebrity, whose play takes much after Shiono syntetic defensive play, did prefer Yinhe seamless to DHS seamed, after he found Yinhe is a ball easier to slap dowm.


Yes, for sure, XSF bounces the most.  No question about it.  I have no idea who this favors, though.  Igor, this is what I have been trying to tell you all along.  I think you will like a good seamless ball a lot better than DHS seamed.  But you will like Nittaku Premium 40+ Japan best of all except for the price.

rick_ys_ho, Yes, exactly.  Actually, my impression is that XSF may even be slightly less spinny than the others, definitely softer, but the bounce makes them better than other plastic balls with the sole exception of the Nittaku Premium Japan 40+ ball that is currently pretty much impossible to buy.  They are lighter than Joola 40+ or Nittaku SHA 40+, but heavier than Nittaku Premium 40+.

kurokami, only ITTF approved seamless balls can be trusted to be good.
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The Stag seamless is made by XSF?
In the UK first national tournament using the plastic ball (Stag), a current international female (a defender) did not make it out of her group.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/30/2014 at 3:12pm
All seamless balls currently are made by XSF.  Includes Stag, Yinhe, Nexy and some others.  Hard to interpret a  single result from a single player from one tournament, especially without a lot more info.
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