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Clarence247
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Posted: 09/29/2014 at 8:49pm |
For those who have problems finding their ideal BH rubber. This is my account of how I went through 4 rubbers of different qualities until settling upon the Dawei SuperPower 2008 XP... a $6-8 rubber which may well be the ideal BH for many players! After a 14 yr break from table tennis, upon coming back I quickly settled for my ideal FH rubber: Adidas P7. Spinny, controlled, powerful, nice throw / arc. On the BH however, my requirements are different, and the Adidas P7 despite being great for BH too does not fit into what I needed. I needed a rubber that does the opening loop very well, but then can loop, drive, block, and chop / push, place balls and play short with balance and reliability as on BH i play a more varied game, whereas on FH I am an outright looper / attacker. The 1st rubber I tried was Rakza 7 Soft. I stuck to it for around 9 months with an intermission of 1.5 months where I tried the old Sriver EL out as a comparison. Rakza was similar to the adidas, nice on attacking strokes - loops, flicks, opening loops, good on blocks vs power drives too - but it was very spin sensitive, slightly too bouncy for placement, good for spinny pushes but very difficult to block spinny opening loops. Rubbers which such characteristics (irrelevant of hardness) I find basically only good on offence and therefore more suited to my FH - Adidas P7 is better than Rakza in certain aspects but still falls within this spinny looping category. I find such rubbers limiting as to the variety I need on my BH. Then I tried the Calibra LT Spin briefly. The Calibra had a lot of the characteristics i needed - opening loop was good, normal looping was ok once I adjusted to the long trajectory - but I always had to be careful as a small mistake leads to a long ball - the ball does not curve down dramatically with the imparted spin. Driving, blocking, punch blocking were excellent - and in rallies on my BH I drive or punch block just as often as I loop so it looked very promising. However, after a few weeks I noticed a strange property of the Calibra - in order to get a quality ball... the ball HAS to sink into the sponge, and therefore light brush loops or brush opening loops intended to land short are not good at all... in fact the ball simply falls dead if you do not engage the sponge! This once again made me feel I had lack of variety... this time I could do more different shots, but I could not vary my attacking stroke. On top of that, serve return was great in that it was not spin sensitive, but the pushes and chops had less spin, and were easier to attack. ----------- It was then that I remembered trying a Dawei Super Power XP 2008 rubber on a friend's blade. I remembered liking it so much, I had ordered 2 sheets of this rubber. So I removed my relatively new Calibra LT Spin - and attacked the Dawei... With this rubber, I now have a lot of what I need... opening loops - very good, effective, easy with good control - can go for both loop drives or brush loops. normal loop or loop vs loop - again excellent control and good enough speed and spin. serve return is nice in that it is not spin sensitive. Drives in rallies are not as fast as the Calibra but faster than Rakza Soft and very well controlled. All type of blocks are great, very reliable - even aggressive punch blocks. The rubber shines in control, and therefore I am able to play that little bit more aggressively on each ball, no matter what stroke - whereas with previous rubbers there always seemed certain strokes (for example drive with Calibra) where I could play very aggressive and others which I had to hold back a bit. The only area where I think the rubber could be better is in giving heavy push / chop return vs the opponent's serves - here Rakza 7 Soft is clearly more dangerous. I hope this may save some $$$ for players looking for a good BH rubber with great control and excellent variety of shots where it performs very well! |
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NextLevel
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You just needed a traditional rubber on your backhand. It is a great decision.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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vic#74
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good post, thnx!
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Clarence247
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Well, not just a traditional rubber because the Sriver EL did not fit in with my requierments - it did not allow me to attack every ball as modern rubbers do - the Dawei retains the more aggressive, grippy spinny, fast nature of modern rubbers - yet gives me more variation in that it has a very stable performance on every shot so I do not feel I am compromising anything to give me that little bit extra in another aspect.
In short I would say Dawei Super Power XP 2008 is a modern rubber with a classic feel which excels not at any particular shot but at control, balance and versatility.
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vanjr
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I find superpower 2008 XP to be very nice as well, but it is kind of heavy. Combine that with a heavy FH rubber and my weak, puny arms and I found it difficult.
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NextLevel
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I have never been a Sriver fan. Now if you complained about Mark V.... Maybe at some point, you may try Musa...
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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geardaddy
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I loved Sriver back in speed glue days. Sriver sponge is a bit harder, so I preferred it on forehand though. Sriver was never known for durability, as it would lose its tackiness in just a month or two. Mark V has great durability, but I never liked it. I guess I just never liked the softer feel of Mark V.
I'm using Xiom Vega Europe on BH now, and I think it fits very nicely into the "modern rubber that is a friendly transition from traditional rubber" category (and it's inexpensive too!). I've used Calibra LT Spin as well, but it also has a harder sponge and I much preferred it on the FH. I'm using Xiom Omega IV Pro on FH now, which I'm liking much better.
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debraj
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good you found your rubber after 4 tries.... for me it took 40 rubbers before i found mine. :)
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slevin
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allegedly :) I'll check back in a month to see if this quote's still valid!
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frogger
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I still play Sriver once in awhile. It's slower of course until you get full power then it will pop. I think Sriver lasts a long time. Good for BH and FH on the right blade but it makes you work for the point. Xiom Vega Europe is very excellent for BH. |
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CraneStyle
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Well... I've tried a few BH rubbers and I have just gone back to T25 FX ...
Not a low cost solution. ... But I think at present I have to concede that I can perform more strokes consistently and in matches with T25FX... |
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1. Mizutani Jun ZLC, FH T80, BH T05
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Believer
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You should consider Donic Acuda S2 for a BH rubber, good dynamic, good control and spin and speed. The only complain that I have is its durability. Otherwise, it is a good BH rubber. You can get a sheet from ttnpp.com/store for about $36.00 including shipping. I am not affiliated with this site. But that's where I buy my gear from.
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adishorul
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IMHO the topsheet of s2 is too hard for Bh. |
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LUCKYLOOP
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My best BH rubber after trying several, which some do work okay for me too. Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 Edited by LUCKYLOOP - 10/01/2014 at 9:42am |
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