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PPH's Yinhe 40+ Plastic Ball (SEAMLESS) Review |
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Believer
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NL, I agree with you when it comes to smashing. The XSF is better. DF balls seem to be more spiny so looping will be a better shots for these seemed balls.
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Jeff(ATTC)
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After ~6 hours hitting with the Yinhe balls, I noticed that they don't jump up as much. Bounce is still very consistent.
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cole_ely
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if I go to a tournament using plastic balls, I will try to find the most used one....opposite of tennis I guess
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Baal
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I had a chance to check this out too. Actually, i also think they are a bit better after a couple of hours use.
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j-bo
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I agree. |
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stevenjlyang
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XSF seamless Plastic Ball is also better.
Edited by stevenjlyang - 01/30/2015 at 1:27am |
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Baal
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Actually my experiments were done on XSF (where I conclude that it is better after an hour or so).
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stevenjlyang
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Actually, seamless ball is better than seamed ball by plastic.
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Baal
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Definitely. |
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hookumsnivy
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Broke my first YinHe ball yesterday (I was using celluloid for probably a month in between my last post on the topic, due to a tournament using celluloid) during practice. To be fair, 1 other broke early on when I visited the Westchester club and let one of the juniors try it and apparently he hit the edge of the blade and it bit the dust.
The 1 we broke yesterday did not happen on an edge ball, but it had a lot of wear and tear on it. In fact earlier in the practice session my practice partner noticed something funny about the ball. Part of the ball wasn't perfectly smooth anymore. When looking at it, it gave the impression of there being a partial seam, though clearly it didn't have 1. It's possible we caused some damage on an edge ball earlier in the night. The way it finally broke was very different than celluloid in that there was absolutely no question it was broken. It hit the table, and you immediately heard a difference and it didn't bounce right. There was a large obvious crack. We opened it up to check it out and what looked like a seam could be seen from the inside as well. It's like it was crack that didn't appear on the inner or outer surface but was still there. Keep in mind, once it cracked, I opened it up to take a good look. Outside of the ball. The crack is obvious but if you look closely (hard to see in this picture), you can see 2 lighter color lines on the ball. One almost horizontal and 1 diagonal: Inside of the ball. This picture is much more clear. The crack once again is very obvious, but now so are the 2 lines below it that aren't exactly cracks (ignore the line that's to the left of the crack, it didn't exist before it broke):
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Baal
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Yes, when they go, the seamless just demolish catastrophically. Interestingly, a Nittaku Premium 40+ can be broken for a long time before you realize it.
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cole_ely
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I just tried the new yinhe red box S40+ tonight. I was afraid they were just rebranded for a higher priced market, but they really are better. I can't testify to their durability because I never broke the other ones. But they clearly were quicker through the air and took spin better. They even compared favorably, right out of the box, with the old ones I had that had several hours of play on them.
The bounce is a little lower, which I don't prefer, but I can't have everything. Or it's the one thing I did like about the other plastic balls. If you like the slower tennis feel of the blue box kind, you probably won't prefer these. if you long for the cell ball, you probably will prefer these.
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Hmm, Yinhe said the red S40+ is the fourth generation of the seamless ball, may be just all smoke and mirrors
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cole_ely
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They may be just a little smaller than the others.
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I got a few from you this morning to test myself. Hopefully, they won't be expanded in the hot sun while shipping and I can review them later this week.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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cole_ely
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Man, hope not.
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racaldas
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Hi, everyone ! Cole, these RED BOX BALLS are SEAMLESS ? Can u post a photo of the box, please ? thank u :) |
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YINHE W 6
- Black, 2,2mm, fh - Red, 2,2mm, bh |
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Patiently waiting.. need to order new, but will wait to see if should change from the "regular" Yinhe's.
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cole_ely
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they are seamless. I took a pic but it's too big to upload, and don't have time to mess with resizing
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Egghead
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Is it the one? I saw it in the other forum. |
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cole_ely
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That's it
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racaldas
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Thank u, EggHead n Cole !!!
Cole, have u tried the 2 STARS or the PROVINCIAL 1 STAR ? |
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YINHE W 6
- Black, 2,2mm, fh - Red, 2,2mm, bh |
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cole_ely
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Balls? I have the 1 star. Not sure if it's the same one. Boxes of 100 and 6
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Beside the one star ball, I think he means this one too BTW, taobao has the new S40+ balls on sale but it is expensive (1.5x)
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YINHE W 6
- Black, 2,2mm, fh - Red, 2,2mm, bh |
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YINHE W 6
- Black, 2,2mm, fh - Red, 2,2mm, bh |
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cole_ely
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the one I have is the 9991
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Is there a difference between the red and blue boxes? |
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cole_ely
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yes, they have different stamps on the balls as well. I feel that the red box ones play as though they're the same weight but they have a slightly smaller diameter. They penetrate the air better and play more like a heavy cell or hardball type cell. They seem to not arc or bounce as high.
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cole_ely
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Last night the Yinhe lady confirmed my deduction. They are made smaller within the acceptable range than the blue box version, requiring a little closer spec.
I really like them, and players in several clubs raved over them. One 2000 guy in San Louis Obispo club really did.
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