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    Posted: 12/18/2014 at 1:59pm
Here's a video of me playing a friend of mine. I am the one on the left. Please be as brutal as possible with your criticism. Thanks Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyoH5BJlZtE
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My main critic goes to the person holding the camera. Does he (or she) have parkinson?
Regarding your game I see you very anxious to finish the point. This causes a bad positioning at the table. When your partner block your shot it´s like you´re dead. You definately need to improve your rhythm. Hit, recover, position, hit again...
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Originally posted by BinaryLoop BinaryLoop wrote:

Here's a video of me playing a friend of mine. I am the one on the left. Please be as brutal as possible with your criticism. Thanks Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyoH5BJlZtE
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Sorry. In my folly I forgot to stabilize the video. Me and my friends are pretty casual, so we didn't hog in a tripod (not that we have one anyways). Thanks for the input!
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The light changes make it hard to see.  If you do another video try to record it in a gym or someplace with only artificial light so it stays even.

As far as your game, you do some nice backhands over the table, but your FH looks really uncomfortable.  It's a small sample, so maybe not accurate.  But you had more than one total whiff on the FH side, and generally don't look comfortable hitting multiple FHs in a row.  Do you practice loop v block drills and can you hit 5 or 10 FH loops in a row when your partner blocks back to the same spot?  

Also, stay lower.  You stand up a lot, and that makes it hard to move properly and hit consistent topspin strokes. 
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I'm having a grip dilemma, which is why you see me struggle when switching from backhand to forehand/vice versa. I have slightly different grip for either stroke,  and it's costing me during fast switching. Should I stick to one grip and make it work for the other stroke?
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Originally posted by BinaryLoop BinaryLoop wrote:

I'm having a grip dilemma, which is why you see me struggle when switching from backhand to forehand/vice versa. I have slightly different grip for either stroke,  and it's costing me during fast switching. Should I stick to one grip and make it work for the other stroke?

My opinion is that you should stick with the separate grips. 
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I saw that during a number of forehand attacks where your right leg came up and went backwards either right before or during your swing.  Reminded me a little of a leg kick in bowling.  You should be getting back to neutral and if anything your leg should be going forward.

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So in general stay more grounded during forehand attacks?
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So in general stay more grounded during forehand strokes?
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Originally posted by BinaryLoop BinaryLoop wrote:

So in general stay more grounded during forehand attacks?
I wouldn't say that, but generally your weight should shift forward into the ball during an attack.  By pulling your right leg back, you're bringing your weight down and away from the ball.


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things to improve upon:
1) prepare for the next shot after you loop
2) body positioning after you loop or punch block
3) index finger positioning when blocking

i didn't pay super close attention to everything and i only watched it once, but those were what i caught!
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Thanks for the tips! I'll post another video when I feel like I've adequately addressed those points.
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I would suggest more fluid with your movement. Finish the stroke, so you're back in the ready position. Too many times watching your shot and not getting back into ready position. 
(I actually do the exact same thing - hmmm easier to tell other people how to do it rather than doing it myself) - Game looks pretty good!
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Poor choice of music out of 10.

But in all seriousness you need to improve your footwork and recovery. Pay more attention to your feet for now.
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criticism is the poor lighting (bright sun)
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Yeah we chose a bad time & place. Next time I'll film in a place with only artificial lighting.
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I would normally say that serving for a reason ( getting back probable returns) would help you, but for you , you need to be ready to do a forehand or backhand, just slow your game down and work on transition and spin that forehand unless it is high 
 I like your little pro backhand attack against the short serve, but as others are saying have a look where your feet go when you are doing your forehand, start helping each other out , with both having turns at 1 backhand 2 forehands and some other repeated drills
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Also I like your bh flip of service, but you shouldn't have to even do that against those serves.  They're high and not that spinny.  You should be able to just flat right through them and hit a winner.  Both of you need to work on tightening up your serves and that alone should take you from 1500 to 1700ish.
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What kind of ball was that? It looks huge! Or maybe it was just the lighting. Agree with Cole, those serves you can just pop them with a flat hit. They were really high. Your serve form looks good and overall form not too bad.
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Hey guys, I'm the other kid in the video. Could I get any advice other than work on my bad serves?
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I think there are weight transfer issues. It looks like you often have your weight on your heels and you are not transferring weight from left side to right side properly for the forehand stroke. As for strategy, you should always serve from the shadowy area to the sunshine area of the table. 
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Originally posted by heavyspin heavyspin wrote:

... As for strategy, you should always serve from the shadowy area to the sunshine area of the table. 
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Originally posted by 109dream 109dream wrote:

Hey guys, I'm the other kid in the video. Could I get any advice other than work on my bad serves?

The most important thing is to keep them low.  If they're not low, they become easy to attack.  
Also, you should mix them up a bit.  It looks like you do the same serve to the same place every time.  Your opponent is expecting that serve and is moving into position to flip it before you even make contact.  You have the entire table to work with, make your opponent move.  Short, long, fast, slow, FH, BH, middle, top spin, no spin, under spin (all with variable amounts of side spin).  This is the 1 part of the game were you can impose your will without having to adjust to the type of ball you're receiving.
 
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Play people who are not your friends. Familiar opponents make serves look worse and returns and rallies better.
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Basic rule of thumb for serve length is serve long or short. By short, I mean the ball must bounce twice or more on the table. By long, I mean it must hit the last 6 inches of table. Anything else is easily attackable as the ball falls off the end of the table.
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