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spinnyserve 
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Is this good for BH? Thinking of using Big Dipper for FH and Saturn Pro for BH, as they both have the same sponge.
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Posted: 01/16/2015 at 3:51am |
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I've been using Saturn Pro on BH for 2 weeks now. It's one of a whole heap of Chinese grippy rubbers I've got hold of recently.
It has a mild tack, medium-low throw, and a solid feel. Very linear, a bit slow compared to most rubbers out there these days. Although SP does have the Gods Crossbow sponge you get with the Big Dipper, SP isn't factory tuned and it seems to make a difference in terms of speed. It's a lot slower than Moon Speed, for example, which is another Yinhe rubber using the Gods Crossbow (but MS is tuned). It was too slow on my current main blade, so I moved it over to the Adidas Hypertouch, which is faster and bouncier. It works really well for me in this combo. |
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Posted: 01/16/2015 at 7:00am |
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Thanks very much AndySmith!
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Posted: 01/16/2015 at 10:03am |
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I ordered a little bit. Hope to have in a week or two
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Posted: 01/16/2015 at 10:04am |
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The reason I ordered it is because it's the only galaxy rubber I know of that isn't 68g per sheet. Basically, to me it's galaxy's only viable bh rubber
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Posted: 01/16/2015 at 2:14pm |
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I read some things about this rubber, but just a few about the regular Saturn, what's the difference between Saturn and Saturn Pro?
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Posted: 01/16/2015 at 4:12pm |
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wow, I hope I didn't get a tacky one. I think I ordered saturn pro but maybe I wanted saturn regular. I got a sample that wasn't tacky. Wonder if it was pro?
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Posted: 01/16/2015 at 4:19pm |
What colour was the sponge on your sample? |
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Posted: 01/19/2015 at 10:26am |
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yellow
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Posted: 01/19/2015 at 10:27am |
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they told me it was going to be softer sponge, not sticky. Hopefully it will be the same thing.
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Posted: 01/19/2015 at 10:32am |
Yellow is Saturn Pro, so you've got the right one. When I said "slightly tacky", I really did mean slightly. It will lift a ball for a split second, but that's it. It's the kind of tack that will probably vanish after a few hours of use. The sponge is more porous, softer, more flexible than the old one. Much nicer IMO. It's a good rubber, I'm sure you'll like it. |
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Posted: 01/19/2015 at 10:35am |
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I liked the sample. It wasn't tuned, was it?
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Posted: 01/19/2015 at 10:39am |
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Andy,
Is the topsheet same between Saturn Pro vs Moon Speed? |
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Posted: 01/19/2015 at 10:44am |
No, mine wasn't tuned. |
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Posted: 01/19/2015 at 11:00am |
No, definitely not. I think Saturn Pro is basically the old Saturn topsheet on an untuned Gods Crossbow sponge. Moon Speed's topsheet has smaller, shorter, wider spaced pips. Saturn Pro's topsheet is a deeper red and is more translucent than Moon Speed. |
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Posted: 01/30/2015 at 10:52am |
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So.....
I have been really happy with the overall performance of Saturn Pro on the Hypertouch. SP is too slow for me on most of my blades, but the Hypertouch adds a bit of bounce to proceedings which livens the combo up. I ordered a second sheet, but this one is almost completely non-tacky. It can barely lift a ball, while the first sheet I had can lift a ball for a good second or so, even after about 6 hours of use. Not sure if this will make a huge difference at the table. Will report back after Monday night's training session. |
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Posted: 01/30/2015 at 11:52am |
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I'll have it in stock and be able to report on it monday.
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Just had to reply to the good-looking gentleman above. I had the first sheet (slight tack) and the second sheet (no tack) on the BHs of my two Hypertouch blades. The 2nd sheet was noticeably faster in the lower gears, as you'd expect with the lack of tack. I'd probably expect the 1st sheet to end up like this eventually after a fair bit of break-in, so it's nice in a way to get the 2nd sheet like this straight out of the package. Shame that I can't guarantee what I'd get if I ordered a 3rd one. I'm going to try the 2nd sheet on mu original Pure Wood setup. I feel that it's fast enough to work for me there now. Oh, and a weird little thing to note. When removing the rubber from a blade, the glue layer stays behind on the blade, rather than sticking to the sponge. Like the sponge is a little oily. Never had that before. The glue just peeled off in one layer from the blade. Edited by AndySmith - 02/06/2015 at 4:15pm |
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Posted: 02/06/2015 at 5:53pm |
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I just checked a brand new sheet, in last week. It's not sticky at all, but it definitely has a "waxy" type finish that some people call tacky. Not dull like the regular moon. Shiny...but no ugly or marked up. The topsheet looks euro quality. Weight is more than my sample was. This one is 63 uncut.
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I'm still waiting to try mine, due to its really strong reaction to Falco Long Temp. I generally don't boost my rubbers, but after reading that Saturn Pro is a little slow and because it didn't seem to be quite as soft as I like, I thought I would try a couple of layers of long temp, which on put on after a layer of glue. It domed massively and is only just starting to calm down enough for me to contemplate attaching it to a blade after two weeks
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I've now had a couple of short sessions with Saturn Pro on my backhand. I tried it on a butterfly innerforce ALC, which is not my usual blade (I am waiting for a replacement for a faulty blade.)
The sheet I had was slightly tacky, with a slightly translucent (red) top sheet. It may be the booster, but I didn't notice any lack of power. It is actually quite bouncy. I would say it has a medium throw and is very grippy indeed. It reminds me a bit of the old 'national' Haifu Shark II factory tuned. It is a bit difficult to judge it fairly with an unfamiliar blade, but I could see it being quite a good backhand rubber.
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Posted: 02/12/2015 at 1:31pm |
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for me, it's a good bh rubber without tuning. it's sticky and thick enough that I could use it for fh if I wanted.
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The tacky one I have is excellent on a faster blade for me, and also works on both wings. Has the added bonus of excellent spin on serves and rock-solid control in the short game.
The non-tacky one is a bit faster, livelier and works brilliantly on the BH of my Pure Wood. The tacky one is just too slow and holds the ball up too much on this blade. I've ordered a 3rd sheet (in black this time - eaching is out of red sheets). The only thing I don't like is the idea of inconsistency between sheets, so will be interesting to see what this one ends up like. The comparison to Shark is interesting. My sheets are untuned, and are definitely slower than all the Sharks I've used in the past. But the feel of the (non-tacky) rubber reminds me a lot of Shark Red Sponge, which was my all-time favourite BH rubber of all-time. I bet SP would get pretty close to that if tuned, but I like the performance as-is for now. |
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The black sheet arrived. It's like my 2nd sheet - hardly any tack to speak of, almost totally non-tacky. This makes me feel a lot happier about sticking with it for the foreseeable - don't want to get a tacky one when it comes time to replace a worn sheet.
I was slightly surprised to see that the black Saturn Pro still has the neon yellow sponge, so it's not like Big Dipper where the black sheet has a blue sponge. Doesn't bother me in the slightest anyway. |
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Posted: 02/27/2015 at 11:53pm |
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would you be able to compare it to any esn rubbers?
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Posted: 02/28/2015 at 5:43am |
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It's not a fast rubber, so hard to compare with any of the esn big boys. It's most similar to Xiom Musa I suppose.
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