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    Posted: 02/14/2015 at 8:42am
Hey guys!
Here is my first impressions of the new Carbonado 145.

Carbonado 145 and 190 - Unboxing

Edited by Giangt - 02/22/2015 at 6:23pm
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It seems to me that Stiga copies the look of Butterfly Schlager Carbon handle.
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Originally posted by Giangt Giangt wrote:

Hey guys!
Here is my first impressions of the new Carbonado 145.

http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?9898-Carbonado-145-Unboxing&p=105514#post105514

looks like the plies are like supercarbon blade
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I have done a review on TTD :)
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Looks great, your review was really good Giangt! Do you guys think this blade will work good with Bluefire M1? 

Edited by Leftyy - 02/22/2015 at 4:40pm
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Originally posted by Leftyy Leftyy wrote:

Looks great, your review was really good Giangt! Do you guys think this blade will work good with Bluefire M1? 
thanks Leftyy! I really appreciate your feedback. Yh I think it would work well on the 145.
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Slightly off-topic, but the name 'carbonado' sounds like a dish, it makes me hungry ;) .

The packaging is killer, tho.
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Originally posted by Giangt Giangt wrote:

I have done a review on TTD :)
Giangt,  encouraging review on the 145. You said its speed is slower than a Viscaria, which I haven't played with - how much slower would it be.  How does it compare with TBS or M. Maze in terms of speed and power.  A review on the 190 would be appreciated also.  Thanks.
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Originally posted by pingponger pingponger wrote:

Slightly off-topic, but the name 'carbonado' sounds like a dish, it makes me hungry ;) .

The packaging is killer, tho.
"carbonade" is a danish dish ;) but if you eat the Carbonado I think you will end up with a stomach ache ;)
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by Giangt Giangt wrote:

I have done a review on TTD :)

Giangt,  encouraging review on the 145. You said its speed is slower than a Viscaria, which I haven't played with - how much slower would it be.  How does it compare with TBS or M. Maze in terms of speed and power.  A review on the 190 would be appreciated also.  Thanks.
I'm glad that you liked it Tom. I would say it's pretty similar to TBS or maybe a bit faster. It has been a while since I have tried the TBS but one is for sure. The control is just fantastic with the 145. Of cause... I will post a review of the 190 when I have tested the blade.
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Originally posted by pingponger pingponger wrote:

Slightly off-topic, but the name 'carbonado' sounds like a dish, it makes me hungry ;) .

The packaging is killer, tho.

I would love some pasta Carbonado! Wink 
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Have to spread the good word.  Ordered the 145 from TTEX.se (Sweden) 4pm Feb 19, EST Canada, received the blade this morning!!!  Had a quick bounce on the bare blade.  The sweetspot does not extend all the way to the side but close enough.  No knots on the blade face as was on Giangt's sample .

Edited by tom - 02/24/2015 at 10:15am
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Have to spread the good word.  Ordered the 145 from TTEX.se (Sweden) 4pm Feb 19, EST Canada, received the blade this morning!!!  Had a quick bounce on the bare blade.  The sweetspot does not extend all the way to the side but close enough.  No knots on the blade face as was on Giangt's sample .

Wow. That's pretty quick. 
How did they ship the blade? and what is the weight of your blade Tom?



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Originally posted by slowman slowman wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Have to spread the good word.  Ordered the 145 from TTEX.se (Sweden) 4pm Feb 19, EST Canada, received the blade this morning!!!  Had a quick bounce on the bare blade.  The sweetspot does not extend all the way to the side but close enough.  No knots on the blade face as was on Giangt's sample .

Wow. That's pretty quick. 
How did they ship the blade? and what is the weight of your blade Tom?



Priority Post with tracking, only charged me 6 USD for it, think they lost money on the Freight.  Will only be able to access my scale tonight - will let you know.
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by slowman slowman wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Have to spread the good word.  Ordered the 145 from TTEX.se (Sweden) 4pm Feb 19, EST Canada, received the blade this morning!!!  Had a quick bounce on the bare blade.  The sweetspot does not extend all the way to the side but close enough.  No knots on the blade face as was on Giangt's sample .

Wow. That's pretty quick. 
How did they ship the blade? and what is the weight of your blade Tom?



Priority Post with tracking, only charged me 6 USD for it, think they lost money on the Freight.  Will only be able to access my scale tonight - will let you know.
84 g. a bit light 
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I'm thinking of ordering this blade! Has anyone more played with it and wants to share their thoughts? 
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Leftyy,

Got the 145 about a week ago, tried it a couple of times only, with Rasant Turbo,and Grip.  I am trying some other blades for the time being but these are my initial impressions: good short game, good dwell ,  loop drive adequate but not my best setup , top spin better but not overwhelming, smashing - has potential.  Power, good for a soft stroke, not good for a medium stroke, and above avg for a strong stroke.  Wish I could say more, but did not want to use it in a game yet, so my experience with it is limited.


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It seems, that I had a bit more luck with the veneer quality. Wink








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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Have to spread the good word.  Ordered the 145 from TTEX.se (Sweden) 4pm Feb 19, EST Canada, received the blade this morning!!!  Had a quick bounce on the bare blade.  The sweetspot does not extend all the way to the side but close enough.  No knots on the blade face as was on Giangt's sample .



You are so lucky Tom. I also paid on 19th Feb and only received the 145 and 190 pair yesterday. I once thought the package was lost in transit. I see they don't offer the discount now.

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Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Have to spread the good word.  Ordered the 145 from TTEX.se (Sweden) 4pm Feb 19, EST Canada, received the blade this morning!!!  Had a quick bounce on the bare blade.  The sweetspot does not extend all the way to the side but close enough.  No knots on the blade face as was on Giangt's sample .



You are so lucky Tom. I also paid on 19th Feb and only received the 145 and 190 pair yesterday. I once thought the package was lost in transit. I see they don't offer the discount now.

Turbo, 

I am sure the delivery thing was a one off but I will take what I can get.  In any case you got the (big)discount  Have fun with the blades and if you come to some conclusion about  differences between the two, it will be nice to have it posted.


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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Leftyy,

Got the 145 about a week ago, tried it a couple of times only, with Rasant Turbo,and Grip.  I am trying some other blades for the time being but these are my initial impressions: good short game, good dwell ,  loop drive adequate but not my best setup , top spin better but not overwhelming, smashing - has potential.  Power, good for a soft stroke, not good for a medium stroke, and above avg for a strong stroke.  Wish I could say more, but did not want to use it in a game yet, so my experience with it is limited.

ok, thanks anyway! I think I will wait a little while for more reviews before ordering Smile
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Originally posted by Leftyy Leftyy wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Leftyy,

Got the 145 about a week ago, tried it a couple of times only, with Rasant Turbo,and Grip.  I am trying some other blades for the time being but these are my initial impressions: good short game, good dwell ,  loop drive adequate but not my best setup , top spin better but not overwhelming, smashing - has potential.  Power, good for a soft stroke, not good for a medium stroke, and above avg for a strong stroke.  Wish I could say more, but did not want to use it in a game yet, so my experience with it is limited.

ok, thanks anyway! I think I will wait a little while for more reviews before ordering Smile

most of the time the wiser choice, I am sure more posts will come in the coming weeks.
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Leftty, wait for more reviews and watch For Sale section closely.

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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Have to spread the good word.  Ordered the 145 from TTEX.se (Sweden) 4pm Feb 19, EST Canada, received the blade this morning!!!  Had a quick bounce on the bare blade.  The sweetspot does not extend all the way to the side but close enough.  No knots on the blade face as was on Giangt's sample .



You are so lucky Tom. I also paid on 19th Feb and only received the 145 and 190 pair yesterday. I once thought the package was lost in transit. I see they don't offer the discount now.


Turbo, 

I am sure the delivery thing was a one off but I will take what I can get.  In any case you got the (big)discount  Have fun with the blades and if you come to some conclusion about  differences between the two, it will be nice to have it posted.



I had ordered a few times from them before and all came within 4 to 8 days so 2 weeks of wait suddenly seems like forever! I had the 145 in Cpen and 190 in Master FL. 190 seems harder and 145 more flex by just bouncing a ball on the bare wood. 145 got a darker and nicer texture. It is 88.5g and 2.5g heavier than the FL. Suppose both wood types are the same. No idea why the 145 is priced much higher than 190 in TT11. Love to read more reviews about the types of rubbers that fit it best before setting up mine.

Was about to wait a bit to see if Xu Xin and FZD will switch to the new blades before deciding which Cpen and FL to buy but the discount price is just too good to miss so I just took a wide guess.
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I thought that if everyone like me is waiting for reviews before ordering the blade there will not be so many reviews so I decided to order the 145 today! I will try to share my thoughts about it when I have received it and played with it for a couple of practices! Smile

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played some games with the 145 last night.  more discoveries, good on the flicks(both sides) and could counter drive with ease and consistency.  To finish a point, it could transmit great (and sweet) power if your stroke is properly executed - but I think this is true for most setups

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can the new carbonado owners tell me whether the 145 or the 190 is anywhere close to the speed and power of the Schlager Carbon?  
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Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

can the new carbonado owners tell me whether the 145 or the 190 is anywhere close to the speed and power of the Schlager Carbon?  


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Speed of the new carbonado is only a little bit slower than (or equal to) butterfly TMB ALC.

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Originally posted by Giangt Giangt wrote:

Originally posted by Leftyy Leftyy wrote:

Looks great, your review was really good Giangt! Do you guys think this blade will work good with Bluefire M1? 
thanks Leftyy! I really appreciate your feedback. Yh I think it would work well on the 145.

I got mine yesterday and will try it out tomorrow. I hope I will be as satisfied as you. When are you going to make the review on the 190? 
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