Tibhar Evolution MX-S

I've played with it for about 15h and I've got a competition in a few weeks. This will be the test, if I don't revert in between.

I'm not entirely sold yet, I may well change after this sheet (back to T05 or off to try something else).

My technique isn't bad and I hit hard enough at the table to not be too bothered by the throw. It was more obvious mid-distance, but it could also be that my timing is still off there, since I play close most of the time.

The weight was the main thing to get used to for me, it changed the balance and affected my timing.

While I haven't tried MX-S yet, from the comments above, it seems that 

Edited by slevin - 05/28/2015 at 8:02am

zheyi wrote: Many has say its easy to transit from chinese rubber. But How.is.it.that a low throw rubber compare to a high throw of e.g. A hurricane3? Im puzzled.

For pure spin, MX-S is heavier. I think Rasant Grip is a good comp though MX-S probably throws a little higher. The thing about MX-S is that it doesnt play like P7. MX-S has the T05 spin but P7 has the easy spin and throw of T05.

MX-S takes more energy and it requires you to adjust to the the throw and commit to more shots. If you spin more or sometimes waffle, P7. If you want to just kill a ball with no regard for human life, both work, but MX-S does it with crazy spin. If you want to loop drive a ball but want to feel safe, P7. If you want to loop drive a ball and make it even though it feels impossible, MX-S. If you don't want to swing hard all the time P7. If you like to swing hard and don't want to go to heaven before you get rewarded, MX-S.

For the first time today, I used MX-S and T05 back to back (sadly on different blades). I swing really hard (for someone without knees) and I think that for people who like hard contact, MX-S is a blessing amongst Euro rubbers.


Handling slow spinny shots is technique but if you like hard contact on your punch blocks, MX-S is your friend. The lower throw also means you get more linear blocks.

Edited by NextLevel - 05/30/2015 at 10:39pm

Stick with your P7.  I have no doubt that any issues with MX-S can be fixed with practice and/or thinner sponge (I have started to embrace 2.0 more) because the sponge is pretty hard, but it's not as easy as plug and play.

I have used MX-S in 2.0mm sponge for a while now and I think I am better able to appreciate what this rubber is designed to do.  This rubber is a specialist rubber for someone with a larger, power strokes or fast wrapping strokes who wants the dwell time to generate their own spin/movement/power.  This is in contrast to MX-P and definitely Tenergy 05 where you want to use a short stroke and the rubber to do the work for you.  MY guess is that most people who like to get power out of shorter strokes will dislike it (in other words, people who like catapulty rubbers or lovers of fast European rubbers), and people who like Chinese rubbers built around control, or who like to use larger motions will love it.  I tend to use wristier larger motions and love the dwell time this rubber gives me to load up on spin.  It allows you to paint a Picasso as everything is created by your own movement.  That's the reason why I initially didn't like the spin - I found out I can create the Tenergy 05 arc with this rubber but I have to create it - it doesn't do so automatically.  A poster - Walee76 - wrote this a long time ago and this is the best way to think of this rubber:

aroonkl wrote: Ok, I try to capture what you said. After all energy & big movement, you create your arc, draw Picasso's things.  Are the result as better quality of the balls? Or it is just a slow car. All big effort just to have quality as T05.

That's on the slow spin side, especially when you are late to the ball (no catapult). The pushing, blocking, driving and smashing is better and you can loop as hard as you want, almost like Chinese rubber, and get good arc.       

MX-S is much harder. After that, its mostly taste and technique as MX-S has no spring sponge catapult. That's the reason many posters complained about it.

Edited by NextLevel - 07/16/2015 at 8:34am

qualizon wrote: Yea, but at the same time if you are coming from hard sponge rubber like Hurricane or Skyline, you'll feel MX-S very forgiving and easy to use without much adjustment needed.

Lafetia wrote: Прикольная накладка. Мало общего с MX-P не такая липкая. Не бустеренная. Больше контроля и больше дуга при топсе. Хорошо сядет на основание средней жесткости. Идеально подойдет тому кто играет от приема. Один минус всех этих накладок что блюфаер что эволюшен что ксиом они все ТЯЖЕЛЫЕ, пропадает маневреность. Забивается кисть и в простых ситуациях они плохо обрабатывают шар. Взял на тест, играю уже 2 месяца, износ наладки 40%. Кому надоели заводские бустеры и устали от политики бата, берите смело. Отказался от тенержи 3 года назад(очень неадекватная цена за кусок резины!).

English only please, or it becomes impossible to moderate.

koshkin wrote: haggisv wrote: Lafetia wrote: Прикольная накладка. Мало общего с MX-P не такая липкая. Не бустеренная. Больше контроля и больше дуга при топсе. Хорошо сядет на основание средней жесткости. Идеально подойдет тому кто играет от приема. Один минус всех этих накладок что блюфаер что эволюшен что ксиом они все ТЯЖЕЛЫЕ, пропадает маневреность. Забивается кисть и в простых ситуациях они плохо обрабатывают шар. Взял на тест, играю уже 2 месяца, износ наладки 40%. Кому надоели заводские бустеры и устали от политики бата, берите смело. Отказался от тенержи 3 года назад(очень неадекватная цена за кусок резины!). English only please, or it becomes impossible to moderate. He did not say anything objectionable.  He basically says it has good spin, arc and control, but he does not like the weight.  He has been playing with it for a couple of months now and estimates it is about 40% worn out, although it is not clear how much he plays. ILya

Edited by JacekGM - 07/17/2015 at 12:02am

Only red, sorry. I had 4 Max sheets and sold my 2 unused and my used black. Love my 2.0 so those aren't going anywhere.

MXS impression.

Just assembled it to nexy PP 3 days ago a test it so on.
It hard faily fast no overly bouncy at all.
Surprisingly good control.

Less of catapult effect , nothing like T05 and MXP

MXP is definitly faster and more catapult softer though.
Top sheet is grainy not sticky.
MXS is faster than T05 by bit with much lower throw less catapult efx though.
Chinese characteristic is there but not dull like chinese ruber.

It is more or less like rasant power grip or grip.

Spin is much considerable and a strong point of this rubber,noticebly more spin in many of shots I play especially short play and serve.

Blocking is also very stable due to dwell time and hardness BH friendly rubber.

Counter top spin : though power and speed is fair but gave you awesome curve and ball placement you need from distance.

@parker

You prefer Rasant over Thibhar stuffs.

Go green , my friend lolz.


Edited by Crowsfeather - 07/27/2015 at 4:20am

Beeray 1, I think I have some unopened black.  I will look for it tomorrow and check back with you.