Probably the best 40+ ball ? Nittaku Premium (MIJ)

Edited by rxng - 04/18/2015 at 1:04pm

The SHA Nittaku might be good for beer pong use but that's about all it would be good for. It's a worthless piece of plastic otherwise.

They spin the same, less than celluloid.  The NP40+ is lighter and travels a little faster than DHS, more like celluloid, indeed this ball is more like celluloid than any other plastic ball.  NP40+ bounces higher.  It lasts a bit longer than DHS, but neither of these 40+ balls are very durable and the NP40+ exterior surface mars and discolors very quickly.  The NP40+ is much rounder and stays rounder as you play with it.  The NP40+ has a seam but it is very difficult to see it, it is quite small.  The NP40+ plays quite well even with a small crack in it, surprisingly enough.  The DHS ball is not round, is fragile, bounces low and often in surprising ways, and it does not stay round after you play with it for long.  The NP40+ is superior in every way, except one:  Nobody has it in stock so you can't buy it. 

Agree that SHA is crap. Someone at the club bought a sleeve and broke 2 balls within an hour.

I am trying to spread the word to buy the xsf, as some people are buying sha because of the nittaku name.

Baal wrote: They spin the same, less than celluloid.  The NP40+ is lighter and travels a little faster than DHS, more like celluloid, indeed this ball is more like celluloid than any other plastic ball.  NP40+ bounces higher.  It lasts a bit longer than DHS, but neither of these 40+ balls are very durable and the NP40+ exterior surface mars and discolors very quickly.  The NP40+ is much rounder and stays rounder as you play with it.  The NP40+ has a seam but it is very difficult to see it, it is quite small.  The NP40+ plays quite well even with a small crack in it, surprisingly enough.  The DHS ball is not round, is fragile, bounces low and often in surprising ways, and it does not stay round after you play with it for long.  The NP40+ is superior in every way, except one:  Nobody has it in stock so you can't buy it.

Ooo thanks a lot, Baal!
The reason for my question here is because DHS 3*** 40+ are among the most cheaper and probably playable, easy to find and buy balls from the new plastic balls here in my area. While NP40+ I can't find.
Nobody offers these balls here.
And mainly I need info because in the next big championship for deaf and hard of hearing (in September, Austria) these NP40+ are posted as official balls for the tournament (?!?!?). But how to have these balls for training as they are so expensive 1st and 2nd - nobody can find them ???
P.S>Sorry for my off topic...

Thanks for Baal's information, I feel the Nittaku 40+ SHA ( MIC ) is just like the DHS 40+, their sounds similar too. Nittaku 40+ Premium ( MIJ ) is totally different with great feel and quality control.

Baal wrote: They spin the same, less than celluloid.  The NP40+ is lighter and travels a little faster than DHS, more like celluloid, indeed this ball is more like celluloid than any other plastic ball.  NP40+ bounces higher.  It lasts a bit longer than DHS, but neither of these 40+ balls are very durable and the NP40+ exterior surface mars and discolors very quickly.  The NP40+ is much rounder and stays rounder as you play with it.  The NP40+ has a seam but it is very difficult to see it, it is quite small.  The NP40+ plays quite well even with a small crack in it, surprisingly enough.  The DHS ball is not round, is fragile, bounces low and often in surprising ways, and it does not stay round after you play with it for long.  The NP40+ is superior in every way, except one:  Nobody has it in stock so you can't buy it.

I hit with the XSF sports version about a month ago.... It wobbled like hell and was slow like hell. It was either from a very early batch or else I have no idea. Many forum members say a lot of good about it, based on that one ball I cannot share their enthusiasm.

kolevtt wrote: Another information I received from a good player right now is that - in the last EU Championship in Lisbon they played with these balls and they had 2-3 broken per match... Explanation for the quality: These balls (NP40+) are faster, harder and ...expensive to play with... According to the rest of the poly balls. That's in general. Someone said XushaoFa's plastic balls are nearer to NP40+ balls. Is this true? I had XSF poly balls with red stamp in the last summer and I wasn't happy with their quality so much... Yeah, it is pretty much visible I can't have trainings with so expensive balls, so I will need the nearest as playing skills and cheap replacement...

Jay is right that the NP40+ durability is better than DHS 40+.  I still think they break more than seamless though.  But it doesn't matter much if you can't get them.  I don't think anyone knows with certainty why they can't supply more.  It's a pity, I like how they play.

With respect to seamless, most of my experience is with XSF and that is very extensive now.  Dozens and dozens.  I am satisfied with the percentage of very round useable balls.  The Nexy ones I had were the same.  I have only had one box of 6 Yinhe.  They were fine.  But a small sample.

If there is one thing about seamless that I don't like, it is that when they are new, they seem to get more dust on your rubber than any other type of ball I have seen in 40+ years.

But if we move into the plastic era, it seems obvious to me that seamless should be the standard moving forward.  When you consider price, availability, play, and durability, they win by a mile.

Baal wrote: Hans Regenkurt wrote: based on that one ball I cannot share their enthusiasm. Says pretty much everything. I managed to break two seamless balls yesterday.  They hit edges.  If that is all I had to go on, I would say they have durability problems, but I have about 11 months of experience with seamless balls, so I know they are the most durable balls you can buy now, overall.  I have had a small fraction that wobbled too, that was true even with Nittaku Premium celluloid balls.  They are generally quite round. I don't mean to be impolite or harsh, but you can't make any statement about quality from a sample of one.

No worries, I understand your point.

I did not want to hide that it was only one ball but the thing that stands out is that the bloke whose ball it was said that he has similar experiences with all of the ones he bought. This is why I wrote they might have been from an early batch. It is also possible that he got scammed.

If the new ones are almost just as good as NP40+, all the better.

Hans Regenkurt wrote: I did not want to hide that it was only one ball but the thing that stands out is that the bloke whose ball it was said that he has similar experiences with all of the ones he bought.

It's to your credit you made this clear.  I think RR may be on to something too, which is they may be lowering their QC standards now that they have found a market.  And that sucks. 

kolevtt wrote: Hello, thanks for sharing, but... Excuse me? You received balls ordered in December ...just now, half year later ? [URL=http://replygif.net/i/1355.gif" rel="nofollow][/URL]

Yepp, I was notified in December that they were waiting for new stock to arrive. Perhaps production is ramping up..

I got an e-mail from TT-Japan, Nittaku 40+ Premium are back in stock.