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    Posted: 11/19/2015 at 5:11am
Originally posted by Figueiredo81 Figueiredo81 wrote:

Acuda Blue sponges are really and I mean REALLY SOFT. I started by testing the middle one P2 and it is crap, too mushy. How should I put it... Never tried anything so soft in my life and I'll give it away. It's softer than Evolution FX-P, softer than Tenergy's-FX as well and I won't even try the P1, I've had enough. Also the throw is really really low, almost felt like playing Bryce again except for the mushy feel. For me it's garbage and I really can't see any positive sides on this rubber.  


Acuda have always been mainly for block and punch, while keeping good spin on opening loops. Low throw is by design.

Acuda also makes sense if you don't want to change grip between fh and bh.


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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by seguso seguso wrote:

Andy, as a JP03 user who finds jp02 way too hard for flip, would you suggest to me to try P3 or P2? I need same hardness as jp03 but with a bit lower throw. I don't want the slingshot effect of acuda S2 and S3.  Thank you

This is a bit tricky.  P3 is a lot softer than JP03 - sponge is softer, topsheet softer, adds up to a lot softer.  I'd have to say go with P2 - although it has a harder sponge than JP03, it has the same uber-soft topsheet and so overall feels a similar hardness to JP03, but with different characteristics.  P2 is definitely lower throw than JP03, and flips well, but be aware that it's more of a blocking/hitting experience than looping.  I have to add that warning to the end because this new generation of ESN are quite different to the last, and it could come as a shock.


I see. The key for me is "P3 is lot softer than JP03". So I must go with P2. Thanks a lot :)
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Originally posted by seguso seguso wrote:

Andy, as a JP03 user who finds jp02 way too hard for flip, would you suggest to me to try P3 or P2? I need same hardness as jp03 but with a bit lower throw. I don't want the slingshot effect of acuda S2 and S3.  Thank you

This is a bit tricky.  P3 is a lot softer than JP03 - sponge is softer, topsheet softer, adds up to a lot softer.  I'd have to say go with P2 - although it has a harder sponge than JP03, it has the same uber-soft topsheet and so overall feels a similar hardness to JP03, but with different characteristics.  P2 is definitely lower throw than JP03, and flips well, but be aware that it's more of a blocking/hitting experience than looping.  I have to add that warning to the end because this new generation of ESN are quite different to the last, and it could come as a shock.
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Andy, as a JP03 user who finds jp02 way too hard for flip, would you suggest to me to try P3 or P2? I need same hardness as jp03 but with a bit lower throw. I don't want the slingshot effect of acuda S2 and S3.  Thank you




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Originally posted by Figueiredo81 Figueiredo81 wrote:

Acuda Blue sponges are really and I mean REALLY SOFT. I started by testing the middle one P2 and it is crap, too mushy. How should I put it... Never tried anything so soft in my life and I'll give it away. It's softer than Evolution FX-P, softer than Tenergy's-FX as well and I won't even try the P1, I've had enough. Also the throw is really really low, almost felt like playing Bryce again except for the mushy feel. For me it's garbage and I really can't see any positive sides on this rubber.  


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Hey Andy,

Have you ever tried Rhyzm 375? If so, how does P3 compare to Rhyzm 375?
Especially interested in things like speed, throw and spin-sensitivity.

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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Did you ever try it unboosted?  It may have reacted badly to the TRF - they are already soft, so expanding the sponge further could have resulted in the mush you felt.

A clipper is a good, happy medium blade so it serves as something of a yardstick (or warning even) to other readers.

Don't try the Rasant Beat.  Softer than P3.  I can't imagine your internet rage.

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Did you ever try it unboosted?  It may have reacted badly to the TRF - they are already soft, so expanding the sponge further could have resulted in the mush you felt.

A clipper is a good, happy medium blade so it serves as something of a yardstick (or warning even) to other readers.

Don't try the Rasant Beat.  Softer than P3.  I can't imagine your internet rage.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by Figueiredo81 Figueiredo81 wrote:

Acuda Blue sponges are really and I mean REALLY SOFT. I started by testing the middle one P2 and it is crap, too mushy. How should I put it... Never tried anything so soft in my life and I'll give it away. It's softer than Evolution FX-P, softer than Tenergy's-FX as well and I won't even try the P1, I've had enough. Also the throw is really really low, almost felt like playing Bryce again except for the mushy feel. For me it's garbage and I really can't see any positive sides on this rubber.  

Ooof.  What's your blade?

I used Plastic and a Clipper CR, a medium feeling blade and a good benchmark I like to use, I have harder blades as well as softer ones that I use constantly but with this Acuda P Blue that was not even an option, I really hated it, for me this rubber might be only good for beginners or players that like buttery feel rubbers. Oh, almost forgot to inform you and this is important, I boost and applied 3 layers of TRF. Even when I got it out of the package (unboosted, no smell) I knew I was not going to like it, it was already too soft and this was the P2. I suppose the P3 melts itself. P1 might feel around Tenergy FX, I dunno and don't care anymore with this series of rubbers, not my cup of tea.  


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You know, Acuda Blue is going to be one of those marmite rubbers.  Some people will just hate it based solely on its softness, and I suppose the extreme softness will result in some bad combinations with blades.

First and foremost, you will need to like soft rubbers.  And I don't mean the ones labelled "soft" in the current generation (for example is Rakza X Soft really soft, or medium).  I'm not sure we've really had a properly soft option from ESN for a year or two now.  Back in the day we had F3 Big Slam, Coppa X3, Aurus Sound etc.  These were sooooooft.  Now we have P3, Rasant Beat, Plaxon 350 (350!).  These are a return to properly soft rubbers.

Secondly, I think the ball selection will have an impact.  I used the P3 first with cell, and it was really good.  Not a long term option, but still.  Then it was the Nittaku Premium 40+, and it felt great to me with this too, but that ball has a hard feel.  My last session was with a Yinhe 40+ with about 6 hours of use on it and it felt much more muffled on contact and I didn't feel as comfortable with it (although the results were OK on the table).

Thirdly, and this is just aimed at me really, it's getting hard to compare new rubbers with old because so much has changed.  I use a rubber, get a feeling, compare than with a memory, but the ball has changed.  So how much of this is useful?  It's very tough to not be misleading.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by dual700 dual700 wrote:

Andy, how's the spin of RB and P3 compared to other popular tensors? Or to Haifu Shark RS Big smile

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Spin is good with P3, RB is just a bit too bouncy and needs a more precise contact to get the spin out, but is still OK.  I guess that the harder-sponged versions will be better for spinning the ball hard, with power.  I find it harder to get spin out of P3 than with JP03, for example, but you can play a flatter, more direct game with P3.  With plastic I find myself driving the ball more on my BH than looping these days so stability is becoming important to me.  I find there is less need to loop on that side now, and just smacking the ball is more effective.

Shark is another good one to think about - it also has that wafer-thin topsheet experience.  P3 and RB have better topsheet grip than Shark but both are slower, especially in the low gears.

These rubbers are more driving, hitting, blocking rubbers with enough grip built in to loop well (if not amazingly).  The softer you go (P1 - P2 - P3 - RB) the bouncier you get and the further away from loop performance you go IMO, but I guess about P2 and P1 at this point.  Shark is somewhere on the right of that scale, but for topsheet reasons.

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Originally posted by Figueiredo81 Figueiredo81 wrote:

Acuda Blue sponges are really and I mean REALLY SOFT. I started by testing the middle one P2 and it is crap, too mushy. How should I put it... Never tried anything so soft in my life and I'll give it away. It's softer than Evolution FX-P, softer than Tenergy's-FX as well and I won't even try the P1, I've had enough. Also the throw is really really low, almost felt like playing Bryce again except for the mushy feel. For me it's garbage and I really can't see any positive sides on this rubber.  

Ooof.  What's your blade?
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Acuda Blue sponges are really and I mean REALLY SOFT. I started by testing the middle one P2 and it is crap, too mushy. How should I put it... Never tried anything so soft in my life and I'll give it away. It's softer than Evolution FX-P, softer than Tenergy's-FX as well and I won't even try the P1, I've had enough. Also the throw is really really low, almost felt like playing Bryce again except for the mushy feel. For me it's garbage and I really can't see any positive sides on this rubber.  
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

So P3 has a 40deg sponge...hmm. I wonder how close it plays to Maxxx400. I haven't liked the bluefires I've tried; topsheet felt mushy compared to Maxxx.


The Acuda blues would be risky for you mate. They are the ultimate in topsheet mush. They are easy to use but are miles away from Maxx's feel.

darn. I was hoping the thin topsheet would and 40 deg sponge would resemble Maxxx. oh well

The topsheet is thin, but super soft and the thin, tall pips add to that.  The sponge is a new thing too.  It's rated at 40 but feels softer.  P2 would probably be closest in overall feel to Maxx 400, at a guess.

I've been using Victas V>15 Limber for a bit too, and it has a 40 degree sponge.  But it feels miles harder than P3, and not just because of the topsheet - the sponges feel totally different to the touch.  The ESN sponge ratings are becoming a bit misleading these days IMO.  The different types of sponge make is hard to compare directly.
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Originally posted by dual700 dual700 wrote:

Andy, how's the spin of RB and P3 compared to other popular tensors? Or to Haifu Shark RS Big smile

Thank you

Spin is good with P3, RB is just a bit too bouncy and needs a more precise contact to get the spin out, but is still OK.  I guess that the harder-sponged versions will be better for spinning the ball hard, with power.  I find it harder to get spin out of P3 than with JP03, for example, but you can play a flatter, more direct game with P3.  With plastic I find myself driving the ball more on my BH than looping these days so stability is becoming important to me.  I find there is less need to loop on that side now, and just smacking the ball is more effective.

Shark is another good one to think about - it also has that wafer-thin topsheet experience.  P3 and RB have better topsheet grip than Shark but both are slower, especially in the low gears.

These rubbers are more driving, hitting, blocking rubbers with enough grip built in to loop well (if not amazingly).  The softer you go (P1 - P2 - P3 - RB) the bouncier you get and the further away from loop performance you go IMO, but I guess about P2 and P1 at this point.  Shark is somewhere on the right of that scale, but for topsheet reasons.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

So P3 has a 40deg sponge...hmm. I wonder how close it plays to Maxxx400. I haven't liked the bluefires I've tried; topsheet felt mushy compared to Maxxx.


The Acuda blues would be risky for you mate. They are the ultimate in topsheet mush. They are easy to use but are miles away from Maxx's feel.

darn. I was hoping the thin topsheet would and 40 deg sponge would resemble Maxxx. oh well
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Andy, how's the spin of RB and P3 compared to other popular tensors? Or to Haifu Shark RS Big smile

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Not sure about this but I thought soft rubbers are worse than hard rubbers for blocking? This is one of the reasons which I chose not to opt for Rasant Beat - could you clarify this for me please?

Well, I guess it's all down to preference, or style.  I've always found softer rubbers easier to block with (esp on my BH side) because they tend to keep the ball low, and tend to be slightly bouncy which helps me too.  I suppose I'm talking more about passive blocking here.  For punching I do prefer a harder sponge.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

[QUOTE=Netbal]Will leave short review if I test the Rasant Beat and the Acuda Blue P3

You'd probably prefer Rasant Beat out of the two.  You can play some stinging flat drives with it with laser accuracy, and it does have a more lively low gear.  It was annoying me tonight - I hit the top of the net a lot with it.  Just slightly too low throw, but I could definitely get used to it.  And it blocks incredibly well.

Not sure about this but I thought soft rubbers are worse than hard rubbers for blocking? This is one of the reasons which I chose not to opt for Rasant Beat - could you clarify this for me please?
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Will leave short review if I test the Rasant Beat and the Acuda Blue P3

You'd probably prefer Rasant Beat out of the two.  You can play some stinging flat drives with it with laser accuracy, and it does have a more lively low gear.  It was annoying me tonight - I hit the top of the net a lot with it.  Just slightly too low throw, but I could definitely get used to it.  And it blocks incredibly well.

Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

After reading Andy's excellent review, I feel that JP03 / M3 users would be better off trying P2 rather than P3.

I blush, but you are right.  I'm going to try P2 next myself.

I had a short session tonight with the yinhe ball and I did get the sense that P3 was stalling a little on touchy shots.  Earlier in the week it was perfect with the Nittaku Premium, probably the harder feel helped a bit.  It could be a touch too soft overall, even for me.

Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

Quick question Andy...do you think JP-02 would be worth trying out if I want a little more zip, or should I just stay with JP-03?

Yes.  JP02 isn't just a slightly harder JP03 though - it has a different type of sponge altogether.  It plays more direct and is definitely faster, so it would definitely give you more pace.  It doesn't quite have that smooth feel on loops that you get with JP03 though.


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Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

That being said I was really looking forward to trying out Acuda Blue, but after reading Andy's review I think I'll just skip it.
After reading Andy's excellent review, I feel that JP03 / M3 users would be better off trying P2 rather than P3.

BTW: anyone using rubbers like JP03 should keep a bottle of Falco Tempo Long handy - they aren't as durable (as harder rubbers like T05 / MX-P) and feel better after a slight re-tuning after about 1.5 months. They also last a lot longer that way.
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Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

So P3 has a 40deg sponge...hmm. I wonder how close it plays to Maxxx400. I haven't liked the bluefires I've tried; topsheet felt mushy compared to Maxxx.


The Acuda blues would be risky for you mate. They are the ultimate in topsheet mush. They are easy to use but are miles away from Maxx's feel.
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thanks for the review Andy. I played with Desto F3 then F3 Big Slam, then moved on to Acuda S3, and then finally moved on to M3 (all in max). I really loved the way F3 and Big Slam played but they didn't have as much spin as S3 and they didn't last nearly as long.  Then along comes M3 and after I got used to a slightly harder sponge I couldn't go back. That being said I was really looking forward to trying out Acuda Blue, but after reading Andy's review I think I'll just skip it.  I have switched to JP-03 now from M3 as it's slightly tacky and I think the slight tackiness helps with the poly ball. 
Quick question Andy...do you think JP-02 would be worth trying out if I want a little more zip, or should I just stay with JP-03?
 
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Thanks Andy,

I think the Rasant Beat might be interesting for me. On my attacking blade I play with Tibhar Nimbus Sound, this has probably one the softest sponge from all rubbers (32,5).
It has a really high catapult and I quite like this. It has excellent control, a lot of speed and I think its suited for most playing styles. But its a love it or hate it rubber. Several other people with different playing styles love it, but some other people really hate the Nimbus Sound.
Im looking for something between Rakza 7 soft and Nimbus sound. I dont mind the catapult/jumpy in low gear, because of my touch. I dislike the rubbers which arent that springy in low gears.
Just Nimbus Sound isnt good for pushing with backspin and can be quite sensitive to spin, so not that good for modern defense.

Acuda S3 was decent, but when I actively block, punch block it doesnt give the same balls as with Nimbus Sound. This rubber is so soft I can give a dead ball which opponents often block in the net.

The Airoc S had a weird feeling to it, hard to describe it. Maybe 'dead' feeling is the best description. I could easily spin the balls, but it just didnt feel right.  Also didnt think it was that fast on my Hurricane Long 3.

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So P3 has a 40deg sponge...hmm. I wonder how close it plays to Maxxx400. I haven't liked the bluefires I've tried; topsheet felt mushy compared to Maxxx.
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Originally posted by berkeleydoctor berkeleydoctor wrote:

acuda blue p3 sounds like big dipper ......

Ooo.  Well, I didn't do a very good job of describing it then!

P3 is muuuuuch softer, in both sponge and topsheet areas.  It's also non-tacky (but very grippy), and throws lower.

The key thing to ask yourself with P3 is...do you like soft, grippy rubbers?  If not, look away immediately.  Also, it has a loose feel, which makes it feel tame overall.  I wouldn't call it high performance as such, but you can get high performance out of it by applying enough effort.

Originally posted by Netbal Netbal wrote:

He Andy, 
could you compare the Donic Acuda Blue P3 to Rakza 7 soft in terms of speed and spin, hardness/softness and throw too. And maybe also the Rasant Beat compared to the Rakza 7 soft, or didnt you try the Rasant Beat yet.


I gave it a brief go on the other side of a setup with Xiom Tau, mainly because I wanted to experience the full-on irony of having one of the hardest sponges on the same blade as one of the softest.  I really should get out more.

It's like P3 only more so. I did feel RB was bottoming out, so it might have crossed the line between "wow this is soft" and total insanity.  It's very loud on flat drives, but feels empty when looping.  I'd say that it probably works well when close-in and hitting/blocking, but might feel too powderpuff for anything else.  It's a touch bouncier too.  I'd like to spend more time with it though.

Whereas P3 does the close-in stuff really well but has enough meat behind it to do other jobs, RB feels more specialised.

Originally posted by Netbal Netbal wrote:


Currently playing with Rakza 7 soft on fh of my normal blade. But I dont like it that much for backhand, so it doesnt work on my modern defence blade (make a lot of points with backhand). Tried Acuda S3 and Stiga Airoc S and several other rubbers, but didnt like these. So really want to try Donic Acuda Blue P3 and Andra Rasant Beat. Hope you can compare them a little to Rakza 7 soft before I order them ;) 

I really think that it depends on why you don't like these rubbers.  These are all pretty popular soft options (although I'm not a huge fan of them these days - I felt that Bluefire M3 and JP03 were better than these in various ways)

P3 is a lot less jumpy/dynamic than R7Soft.  The top end speed is probably the same, but P3 has this almost flaccid low gear which makes it surprisingly linear for such a soft feel rubber.  If you feel that R7S is too bouncy and unpredictable, P3 could be a good option.  If you like R7S for its easy speed, you won't like P3.

P3 is also less jumpy and dynamic than Acuda S3 (and softer too), but the main difference is P3 has a much grippier topsheet.  P3 is easier to use in general play - lifting backspin, driving is child's play with P3, but it lacks cutting edge without commitment from the user.  P3 blocks well, but S3 is better IMO due to topsheet spin sensitivity.

Airoc S is an interesting comparison.  The Airocs are worth talking about in this context because they also lack low-gear dynamism, like P3 in some ways.  The key difference is P3 has a great topsheet for me, which helps with brushy shots and slightly unclean contacts.  Airoc has a grippier topsheet than other recent Stiga rubbers, but it's still a bit slick IMO and you need a solid contact on the ball for it to work.  P3 is far more forgiving with its contact grip, is a bit slower than Airoc S overall (and more sensitive to incoming spin), and (important for me) has a much nicer feel on impact than Airoc S, which always felt vague and muffled to me.

The Airoc comparison is useful actually.  I used Airoc S&M for a good while last season, and I felt that they were so, so close to being great for my game.  If only they were a bit grippier, and maybe a bit less dynamic.  Well, P3 is almost that perfect version of Airoc S for my BH game, and I'm really curious to see if P2 could be a similar experience WRT Airoc M.
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acuda blue p3 sounds like big dipper ......
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He Andy,
could you compare the Donic Acuda Blue P3 to Rakza 7 soft in terms of speed and spin, hardness/softness and throw too. And maybe also the Rasant Beat compared to the Rakza 7 soft, or didnt you try the Rasant Beat yet.

Currently playing with Rakza 7 soft on fh of my normal blade. But I dont like it that much for backhand, so it doesnt work on my modern defence blade (make a lot of points with backhand). Tried Acuda S3 and Stiga Airoc S and several other rubbers, but didnt like these. So really want to try Donic Acuda Blue P3 and Andra Rasant Beat. Hope you can compare them a little to Rakza 7 soft before I order them ;)


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