Anyone Using ALL Class?

I am sure you can sell it for quite a bit.

I am currently using Avalox BT550 (ALL+).   It is slow in low gear and quite fast in high gear (due to catapult effect).   I am using Rapid Xpress and Sriver (both regular un-boosted rubbers).  I don't hear any negative comments from my friends who use OFF+ composite blades + tensor rubbers.  Spin and power produced are still plenty.

And I used to have 72 blades including the highly regarded TBS and MMaze, etc.  Rutis, Samsonov PW and composite, etc.   And I think I like ALL+ / OFF- blades better.

So, don't be ashamed using ALL+ blade.  We don't have to follow anybody.  Use what you feel best for you.

Luckily my EJ fever is forever cured.

koshkin wrote: I am sure you can sell it for quite a bit. I like the feel of these old blades, but as I kept trying different blades I realized how much difference the grip makes for me.  With some adjustment period, I can play with almost any blade.  The speed and weight do not seem to matter too much too me within reasonable limits.  I am a looper so I tend to prefer somewhat head-heavy blades that are a bit on the heavy side, but I have been able to adjust to quite a few different designs with no issue.  However, that Bengtsson handle (early straight/square handle that is a bit short) makes all the difference in the world to me. It fits my hand and provides incredible amount of feedback.  The same blade with a different handle does not feel nearly as good and I gave it a shot for a almost three months once trying to get used to it. I am sure it is something about the way my hand is shaped, but it makes a huge difference to me. ILya

Last year I was eager to buy Victas Dynawood, declared as ALL+ blade. However, when launched it became probably the most expensive ALL+ blade on the market immediately. No wonder no one's been mentioning it still.

I have Stiga Allround NCT, medium soft, medium flex but hollow feel (for me, at least).

doraemon wrote: HowToPlayChineseLoop wrote: the CNT team use always 7-ply blades. It's OFF to OFF+. Do you know someone in CNT or Provincial Team use ALL+? No, I don't think so. But, are you or are we as good as those CNT players, so that we should use the same blade as they do?

if we not as good as CNT players it doesn't mean we can't use there blades

I'm curious, of the All blades mentioned in this thread, do any of them not have a hollow feeling? My elbow is sensitive to certain frequencies produced by ball contact with a hollow feeling blade.

I love my YE blade 

NextLevel wrote: MindTrip wrote: I'm curious, of the All blades mentioned in this thread, do any of them not have a hollow feeling? My elbow is sensitive to certain frequencies produced by ball contact with a hollow feeling blade. I personally use hard thick rubbers to control that, but others may have a different view.  I like to feel the ball somewhat as a tool for adjusting my stroke, so the feedback for me is usually positive. Usually, these blades don't have the hollow handle problem common in many blades.  What blades have you tried?

MindTrip wrote: NextLevel wrote: MindTrip wrote: I'm curious, of the All blades mentioned in this thread, do any of them not have a hollow feeling? My elbow is sensitive to certain frequencies produced by ball contact with a hollow feeling blade. I personally use hard thick rubbers to control that, but others may have a different view.  I like to feel the ball somewhat as a tool for adjusting my stroke, so the feedback for me is usually positive. Usually, these blades don't have the hollow handle problem common in many blades.  What blades have you tried? I typically use thicker offensive rubbers also, so we may like something similar as far as blades go.   Over the past 6 years I've used Yinhe V13, DHS PG7, Xiom Zetro Quad and Korbel (Japan). As far as Allround blades, I've given the Tboll All+ and an Andro Kinetic All rated blade a try. Both seemed to have a popsicle stick feeling, though the Andro was more bearable. I've used my wife's Stiga OC and love its playing characteristics, but when I remove my rubber from it to glue her's back on, the top ply splinters so badly. I can see the second ply right where the sweet spot used to be.  I need something that loops as well as the Korbel, but will slow down the pace on my loop drive to keep it from going long. I've tried not swinging as hard on the drive, but the ball will dive into the net nearly every time.

Edited by NextLevel - 05/23/2015 at 1:52pm

cole_ely wrote: MindTrip wrote: NextLevel wrote: MindTrip wrote: I'm curious, of the All blades mentioned in this thread, do any of them not have a hollow feeling? My elbow is sensitive to certain frequencies produced by ball contact with a hollow feeling blade. I personally use hard thick rubbers to control that, but others may have a different view.  I like to feel the ball somewhat as a tool for adjusting my stroke, so the feedback for me is usually positive. Usually, these blades don't have the hollow handle problem common in many blades.  What blades have you tried? I typically use thicker offensive rubbers also, so we may like something similar as far as blades go.   Over the past 6 years I've used Yinhe V13, DHS PG7, Xiom Zetro Quad and Korbel (Japan). As far as Allround blades, I've given the Tboll All+ and an Andro Kinetic All rated blade a try. Both seemed to have a popsicle stick feeling, though the Andro was more bearable. I've used my wife's Stiga OC and love its playing characteristics, but when I remove my rubber from it to glue her's back on, the top ply splinters so badly. I can see the second ply right where the sweet spot used to be.  I need something that loops as well as the Korbel, but will slow down the pace on my loop drive to keep it from going long. I've tried not swinging as hard on the drive, but the ball will dive into the net nearly every time.  You may be disappointed in your results going to a slower blade.  This will allow the incoming spin to take more and force you to come forward through the ball even more. Using a faster blade will minimize dwell and help you ping through those balls at the top of the bounce. If you're letting the ball drop and spinning it back up, you'll probably like the slower blade more. I guess I'm not completely sure what you're trying to do.

NextLevel wrote: frogger wrote: Skyline wrote: I tried a Stiga Allround classic carbon. Although I could play fine with it after a little while, it lacked too much put away power. Allround  blades are definitely not for lazy players with more passive strokes. " It lacked to much put away Power"? Interesting observation. I have zero issues with "put away power" with this class. I have always had excellent stroke speed regardless of blade class except strickly DEF class blades, as those are a bit slow. Rubber selection can make a huge difference on ALL class blades. Skyline plays at a higher level than we do. He isn't wrong either. The point of an ALL blade is control, not power.

Edited by Skyline - 05/25/2015 at 7:39am

danseemiller wrote: Because they are slower.

Slower blade means more time for you to do something reasonable with the ball...

Well, you don't have to sell me.  I use a w6 with illumina 1.9/1.7.  A very reasonable setup.

NextLevel wrote: cole_ely wrote: Well, you don't have to sell me.  I use a w6 with illumina 1.9/1.7.  A very reasonable setup. Sometimes I wish I had a little more solid feel to the blade when I'm trying to hit through a topspin.  Probably just means I need to put more positive into it. Why are you trying to hit through a topspin?  Not enough sponge to re-loop it?