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    Posted: 07/30/2015 at 2:48pm
Why does TT Prods name their blades after players and not their rubbers sheets?Wink

Does anybody ever given a thought about that or i am the only one pondering over.Confused

Well, share your views.Embarrassed
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Didn't Waldner have rubber named after him?
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Ok..I just googled that and found a review in MyTT. 

So are there many or just this one?

Wait Coppa Jo Gold /Platin/Silver are there. So does that count?
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Originally posted by in2spin in2spin wrote:

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bm:  those names are on rubber?

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[QUOTE=in2spin]bm:  those names are on rubber?

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What can I tell you?  I screwed up.  I didn't read the OP's post right.  Don't ever get old.  You misinterpret stuff, and it really plays hell with your TT game as well as your ability to post all the time accurately to TT forums.  Don't ever take naps either.  It feels comfy in the sack, but your brainpower decreases 75-90% once you wake up.  Which I did before I posted that post.

Those were rackets, some shod with "the finest English rubber", others such as the Stiga Mellis and Stiga Ehrlich affixed with Yasaka Cobra, and the Alser, Bengtsson and Johansson with Mark V.

But....if you were an old line card-carrying HB Man, wouldn't it have been cool to have played with a combo Hock, Dunlop, or Slazenger with midnight blue Bergmann on one side (fh, vertical pip arrangement) and Filby on the other (brown, more standard horizontal pip arrangement)?  Or maybe "Flisan" (Tage Flisberg) on both sides in scenic Sweedish dark reddish copper?


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OK, a chance to redeem myself.  In addition to Waldner and Barna, Dick Miles had rackets and inverted rubbers made bearing his name sometime in the 1970s.  Bernard Hock used inverted rubbers on his rackets designed for sponge play with the logo "HOCK--The Finest Rubber in All the World" in the mid-'60s-early '70s.  Perhaps a bit of an exaggeration.  Hock, in addition to being a roofer by trade and America's most famous racket maker, was also a TT player and coach. 

In the early 2000s, ATP made hard rubbers called Reisman Devil Red and Black Ace.  They got approval from the ITTF, but were dropped a number of years ago.  You can still use them for HB play in the US, however.


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Out of my head, after JO, there are Persson by Donic and Maze by Sword. Also some less known rubbers like Yaping and Xushaofa. I saw Kim Taek Soo in the ittf rubber list but not sure if they ever got released. And there are Malin and Timoboll rubbers in China too but probably not ittf approved. 

Just remember the old design Xiom Omega 1,2,3 top sheet has the word RSM on them. 


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I don't know, but I'm glad they have separate naming conventions.

Look at Xiom, who decided to have the same names for blades and rubbers: it's quite confusing, and doesn't help when trying to look up reviews.
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Since the TIBHAR DTecS is "Dynamic Technology with Samsonov," one could say that all DTecS rubbers are named after Samsonov
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Toni Hold has his name on some rubbers as well.
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Originally posted by rajd1234 rajd1234 wrote:

Why does TT Prods name their blades after players and not their rubbers sheets?

Maybe because manufacturing a custom blade for a player which will then become mass produced is cheaper and easier than manufacturing custom rubber.
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Isn't Sriver a guy's name?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GeneralSpecific Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/01/2015 at 11:19pm
Also Michael Maze and Chen Longcan. Sword has some rubbers named after them.
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Good question. But is it only me who is a little tired of all the different blades with the same names all over again? I mean how many Timo Ball blades are there? 
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Originally posted by rajd1234 rajd1234 wrote:

Why does TT Prods name their blades after players and not their rubbers sheets?Wink

Does anybody ever given a thought about that or i am the only one pondering over.Confused

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I think that is mostly for two reasons

a) because a blade will last much longer than a rubber, so it is more flattering for the pros
b) for the same reason - blade lasts much longer and there is less need for a blade than for the rubbers - so manufacturer needs more sex- and pro- appeal to sell a blade. I think that's why they pour more advertising power and name-dropping into selling blades

On the other hand I bet that rubbers are more important in making a profit, simply because the market for rubbers is much larger. So the reason is more psychological than logical - at least it seems to me that way.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanMcg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/03/2015 at 6:20pm
Rubbers without a blade are useless, so selling the blade first gives people motivation/a reason to buy more rubbers.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wilkinru Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/03/2015 at 6:56pm
It's a good question, but I suspect players tend to move to the best rubber quite rapidly in the pro ranks.

Tenergy comes out and almost all of them play with that. I wonder if this has traditionally been the case - a new super rubber comes out and they all switch to it?

While a blade often will be about the weight/wood type/handle feel. Now even if a player wants to make changes to this - they can make the blade look the same as is in the retail channel. It must be easier to customize a blade than it is to customize a rubber to an individual.

I guess in the end, it would look bad if 8 out of 10 pro's used a Ma Long Super Tacky on the forehand? Some players might even have their own rubber named after them yet would be using the new Ma Long one.

Of course they could just put their own stamp on the rubber and we'd never know what they'd really be using.
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