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tomaschonnie
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Posted: 09/16/2015 at 2:27am |
Hi,
I'm thinking of going to Hebei Zhengding Table Tennis Training Base for about 2 weeks next summer. I'm living in Vietnam so it's closer and cheaper for me to travel there rather than return to my native Europe. I'm not really interested in tourism; I'm going purely for the table tennis. I've read the reviews here on mytabletennis.net and on tripadvisor.com. I've read, and taken on board, that it is better to email the center itself rather than rely on the tourist agency as they try to profit on unsuspecting foreigners. I've emailed 'Julie' at [email protected] and received a response. Julie says it's between 50-60 dollars a day for TT and accommodation. That's a total of about 900usd. After just checking skyscanner.net, I figure flights for me would be about 400usd return. The train from Beijing to this place would be about 60usd return. I guess food would be another expense on top of this. All this sounds good. Has anyone been there recently? Are there other places in China I could go that would be better in terms of value for money? Like I said, a good table tennis experience is my top priority, and I'm willing to pay a little more to go somewhere else if a better learning experience can be had. Regards, Tomas
Edited by tomaschonnie - 09/16/2015 at 2:30am |
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Beside the training base in Zhengding, there's a new training center in Beijing. The owner of this facility is Guo Yan, a former CNT top player. Check the link below. The contact info is included. You may contact them to find out more details.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Young-Shine-Table-Tennis-%E7%82%8E%E4%B8%8A%E4%B9%92%E4%B9%93/1456405401319243
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Baal
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I guess if you are living in east Asia already some of the novelty might have worn off, and time is always limited, but there are really amazing things to see in China beyond the table tennis including in Hebei.
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tomaschonnie
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Thanks. Edited by tomaschonnie - 09/16/2015 at 9:43pm |
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tomaschonnie
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Thanks, but isn't this place for kids? I'm 34 |
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Coach K
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I have many connections in the Liaoning province for advanced training, Please contact me if you are interested and we will discuss details.
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tomaschonnie
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Hi, Im interested. Please tell what you know. Thanks for your post. |
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PingPongPom
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Hey, I went to Zhenging and Yan's Club while I was in China (July-Aug 2015) you can read more about it on my blog, hopefully my experience may help you decide what you want to do.
http://www.mhtabletennis.com/2015/08/what-i-learnt-from-playing-table-tennis.html Edited by PingPongPom - 09/17/2015 at 2:26am |
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tomaschonnie
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Thanks PingPongPom. You are exactly the person I was hoping would reply. I read your blog and I think I am 90% sure I will go there. From your blog, I can see that I would have a great time. Thanks for taking the time to reply. |
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tomaschonnie
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I'm booked!
Thanks for the help... What should I bring with me? any advice would be appreciated - I will put new rubbers on and bring some spares - spare blade maybe - medications ? Edited by tomaschonnie - 05/16/2016 at 8:44am |
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Simon_plays
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Hi Tomas, I think we played at Hoa Luu club once a few months ago :)
I've also thought about maybe going to a training camp before I move back to Europe so would be very interesting to hear from you when come back.
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PingPongPom
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Lots of shirts, during the summer months it is brutal especially if you sweat a lot like me. My advice, always keep water in your fridge (they will provide bottles of water). Always use the breaks in between training to rest after the first few days. I took 2 pairs of tt shoes just in case. There are a few physical table tennis shops in Zhengding and Shijiazhuang so if you get really stuck you can just buy stuff, though Tenergy is pretty expensive. Hope you enjoy it! :)
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sandiway
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I think it's much better to base yourself in a nice, biggish city with good food, massage, malls, public gardens, and sightseeing opportunities rather than live the spartan life in a training camp facility. In a big city, there are lots of clubs; you can get training at any of them. Play some league nights. And unless you are truly super-fit, you'll be unlikely to sustain even 4 hours a days of high-quality training day after day.
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Just had friends from NZ go there, have a great time
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tomaschonnie
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Hi Simon,
I will post in this thread to let you know how it goes! |
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tomaschonnie
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Does anyone have any experience of taking the train from Beijing to Shijiazhuang?
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PingPongPom
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I went the other way from Shijiazhuang to Beijing. As I recall it took about an hour? Nice clean and modern train too!
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tomaschonnie
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Hi, A shopping centre about 10 minutes’ walk away; can get anything you want there. A tt shop about 2 minutes away. Local people don't pay much attention to foreigners; neither friendly nor hostile. I didn’t go far from the training centre, but it was a peaceful area and I had a nice walk every day.
7. Cost. 60USD per day for accommodation, 6 hours training, and 3 meals. A bargain. |
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Makelele
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Hi Tomas, thanks for the info. Would you mind posting photos or videos?
It would be useful also to know your level (may be USATT aprox. rating?) so as to evaluate if the experience would be worth for players whose levels are under and above yours. And any other info would be appreciated ( drills, any special tip from the coach, etc)! Thanks again. |
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pipigrande
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$60USD a day? That's it?!!! ... that's so cheap!! wow.
Totally worth it if I only had the time ... |
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tomaschonnie
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lunch buffet at the cafeteria My room. West building. bathroom view of the centre main training hall (or half of it, anyway) women's training hall students line up before training and wait to be grouped/partnered students line up before training and wait to be grouped/partnered occasional physical fitness training Head coach playing against a chopper. Dispatched him easily. I was told this coach awas mizutani's coach in Japan when Mizutani was young. table tennis shop within a stone's throw of the centre. beautiful ancient Chinese building near the centre. Shopping mall 10 minutes walk away. Head coach invited me to go to a local primary school for a special training session. Was fun. We went to dinner afterward, drank a lot of Chinese whiskey and got lost on the way back to the centre. Nice guys! Edited by tomaschonnie - 07/27/2016 at 10:54am |
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tomaschonnie
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I'm not a high level player; been playing approx 3.5 years. Where I'm living, there's no rating system, but from videos I've seen online, I would say I'm about 1800 or 1900 (on a good day). Training involved being partnered up with someone, and doing single or multiball drills. Each session lasted about 3 hours; usually two sessions per day with lunch and dinner in between. There were many types of drills, mostly for improving footwork, as well and shot combinations e.g. backhand flick then forehand loop, or backhand short push then loop against backspin from the backhand side. It was pretty gruelling at first. The level of skill there was unbelieveable; many players have been there for months and years and were superb players. I was, almost certainly, the lowest skilled player there. But at the end of my time there, I had definitely improved. Here are some videos I took while I was. I don't have any videos of the multiball training. Watch out for the videos at the bottom. The head coach of the whole facility invited me to go to a local school with which he had some ties to help train young kids. They were so young, but their skills were great. I found out that this school is where Wang Liqin went when he was a kid (at least I think so). Cool, eh? this my channel http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ2HQ8ApfvQw1LhQEWbx6ew Edited by tomaschonnie - 07/27/2016 at 11:35am |
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[If I only had the time...]
Make the time, friend. You only live once Edited by tomaschonnie - 07/27/2016 at 11:52am |
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mycuzinvinny
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Thanks for the pics. I went there for a month in 2010 and enjoyed my time there. Better to go with group and understand some of the language. The training was good. On reflection I should have gotten the lower individual training. Play around 1600, and trained with the kids. Book directly through the center, not cntttc. The PR junior team was there for a couple of weeks while I went, great attitude. Many kids didn't want themselves in video. Link below.
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Very nice videos tomas. By the way, were you in any of those videos? Everyone there looks so good. I would love to eventually go there and train for a few weeks, but looking at the level they play at, I think I'll just be a waste of space...
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lucifer
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Do you speak any chinese?
They look pretty good, but maybe they would leave you aside a bit. Being a foreigner, the worst player and not speaking their language. Also it seems as if they are all kids except for the guy who comes from US. Doesn't that feel awkward? Edited by lucifer - 07/28/2016 at 3:28pm |
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tomaschonnie
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I'm not in an any of the videos. The level is high, that's true. But the players in these videos are some of the highest.
There are four levels of ability, and you will be placed with the appropriate partners. I was the lowest levels, and mostly did multiball; the kids were pretty patient with me. At the end of the two weeks, I had improved. I was bad at the beginning; now I'm less bad My lack of Chinese was only annoying because I couldn't receive detailed advice on strokes etc. There is a coach there whose job it is to take care of the foreign players. He usually played with me for an hour a day. That was really helpful, because he fixed a lot of errors in my strokes. p.s. that guy wearing the USA t-shirt is Chinese; he's actually the coach just under the main coach (who you would have seen playing the chopper in the video above) Edited by tomaschonnie - 07/28/2016 at 10:09pm |
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