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peter79 
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 Topic: Genuine W968 PicturesPosted: 02/02/2016 at 11:09am |
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Weight 91.5 gr, 5.9 mm
It's different with my previous W968 which I lately know which is a replica not the original one. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63738 The genuine one is more powerful, feels harder, less dwell than the replica.          |
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
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IanMcg
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Posted: 02/02/2016 at 11:21am |
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I expected the fibers to look cleaner, but it's still a beautiful blade!
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Posted: 02/02/2016 at 11:25am |
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Is this similar to the Hurricane Long 5?
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Posted: 02/02/2016 at 12:05pm |
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Yes, I pick this blade among 5 W968, I like the grain, looks like 1st Generation Nittaku Acoustic  |
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peter79
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Posted: 02/02/2016 at 12:06pm |
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It's a more powerful version Long 5... |
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Posted: 02/02/2016 at 12:11pm |
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Forgive me for my skepticism, but I doubt it's substantially more powerful. The force you can produce from the blade relates to only a few material factors - the weight, the speed at which it moves, and the hardness/flex. You could do an analysis, and I suspect that when you control for weight and swing speed, the hardness/flex are not going to be significantly different. After all, if it's made from the same material and relatively similar thickness; there isn't going to be much room for individual difference, is there.
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Posted: 02/02/2016 at 12:37pm |
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H3 Commercial, Provincial, national is made from same material, but plays differently....
Also the kokutaku 1 ply hinoki, between 3008, 8008, 9008 It has different feel and power, the 9008 feels much better than 8008.... |
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Argothman
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Posted: 02/02/2016 at 12:40pm |
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I think there could be differences in the quality of the wood, but those differences are probably minimal. You should do a blind test with your friends - have them try the HL5 and the W968 without know which is which and have them rate them. Use the same rubbers and everything.
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Yes quality of the wood makes the difference. PG7, 506 commercial and Hurricane Long 3 has the same composition, but how come it plays differently....
If you say minimal, then use PG7 or Hurricane long 5.... |
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Posted: 02/03/2016 at 2:36am |
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How is the price? Is there any equivalent blade in cpen? |
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Posted: 02/03/2016 at 2:50am |
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http://www.prott.cc/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=DHS-W968 Yes there's Cpen version. I got it a bit cheaper than prott.cc The price of table tennis blade is just too expensive: http://www.prott.cc/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=ZhangJKracket |
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But problèm for w968 is all model are différent price, example commercial version....
After ttnpp sell blade w968 is not same than what i Can get and what prott Get... W968 ttnpp sell are blade dhs produce only for sell.... They are not same than model for professional player Blade are different... Sometimes i can get somes blades from national team chineses player i already get blade from fang bo, from zhang jike... |
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Posted: 02/03/2016 at 3:53am |
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W968 more hard and Quick than w997 ....
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You forget the Glue .... there are different types of glue which gives a different characteristic combined with wood. and also there are different pressuring method.
This all can change the blade characteristic.
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Posted: 02/03/2016 at 11:06am |
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Yes it use new glue like the 506+ commercial which is for plastic ball. |
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Are you sure you now what i mean by the glue ? Because this info your do not get from anyone.
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Posted: 02/03/2016 at 12:03pm |
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Yes you remind me the 506+ The different with 506 is the glue... I got the info from prott.cc today, from the description "W968 is a DHS pen-hand blade exclusively made for National Team. As an updated version of N656, this blade adopts a newly developed adhesive suitable for 40+ balls, which can offer more support than pure wood blade. Players could exert powerful attack from middle distance of table, giving good performance in defense and borrowing power by using this blade. Also it suits for pen-hand players who hit balls horizontally. The blade could help to hold the ball on the racket longer and strengthens power afterwards." |
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Posted: 02/03/2016 at 12:10pm |
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This has nothing to do with the glue which is used to attach rubbers to the blade.... For instance im using three tipes of glue for one blade.... But still can be used only one .it has nothing to do with the 40+ ball.
And normaly you will never get this info from the blade maker... This is mostly the biggest secreet. Edited by Bobpuls - 02/03/2016 at 12:12pm |
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Posted: 02/04/2016 at 2:24am |
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I have checked prott and i couldnt find w968 penhold |
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Posted: 02/04/2016 at 2:28am |
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I can get if you want  Edited by peter79 - 02/04/2016 at 2:29am |
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Posted: 02/04/2016 at 5:55am |
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Can you explain a little bit about ir or you made a promise of not telling anyone? |
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For example
One of few blade makers BBC is informing which general type of glue he is using But he will not give you exact information about which type precise There are two types of Glues which i`m using 1 Water based 2 Epoxy but each of this glues has different characteristic i for example using three types Two water-based and one epoxy From the two water-based is one stiff after drying and second is more flexible and still can be pressed little bit each glue is soaked into the wood different way and it is directly affecting wood characteristic (stiffness , springiness .. etc) so basically if you have two ply of veneers you can have different results after gluing with different type of glue. And this is mostly and significantly affecting thin porous veneers where the glue is practically inside the wood itself .. so it becomes something like wood-glue composite. Hope you understand. |
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Posted: 02/04/2016 at 9:38am |
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Wow thanks for the explanation, no wonder my W968 although it's lighter, it feels harder than my previous W968 replica, glue can also make wood harder....
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Hi Peter79, need your input on my thread please: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78103&title=new-hurricane-long-5 Thanks |
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Prott and ttnpp sound like masters of marketing to me. They seem to sell "pro" versions of everything. I for one am sceptical, especially after I saw prices for some blades. Prott offers a Viscaria for $180, down from their low low price of $250.
But hey, its a "pro" blade. Or something. |
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Ridiculous.... By setting such prices I clearly see what is their attitude towards us. Just put a celebrity name on it and the sales are guaranteed. The rabble is so easy....
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