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Donic Waldner limited edition 2016 |
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king_pong
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ttspirit, I am quite certain that all old straight Waldner blades are the same (take a look at it below. It looks just like your Dicon). I am certain that Banda & Donic used the same STraight handle halves up until around 1996 (I'm guessing now), or whenever the more "Oval-shaped" straight handle came into existence for Donic.
What feels different is the thickness of blades with the same handle half. If you compare different Stiga blades with the same handles (Peter/Straight, Master/Flared), for example, they will often have a completely different feel as the thickness of a Stiga Clipper will be a lot taller than say a Stiga Offensive Classic.
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player87
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Hello everybody. Can you share your experience of playing this new donic waldner blade? what rubbers are good with it?
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Lawson
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Hey, I have been playing for one week with this blade (ST handle) whith Donic Baracuda on FH and Joola X-Plode Sensitive on BH, both max. A few months ago I returned to table tennis after nearly 20 years. My former blade was my old Donic Waldner Dicon (FL handle) with new rubbers: Donic Acuda S2 on FH and Joola X-Plode Sensitive on BH, both 2.0.
Here are my impressions, specially in comparation with my former blade: Both have the JO Shape that I love. They have very similar thickness, I didn't measure them but they look almost the same. Waldner limited is a bit stiffer and heavier (I didn't weigh it before I put rubbers on it, but the difference of weigh after that is obvius) than Dicon. Also with this set up, Dicon is more balanced and Limited has more weigh on paddle area). Dicon is faster. Limited is slower and has less vibrations, and I feel it has more control and a larger sweet spot. Handle's touch is different compared with Dicon but both are very nice. My subjective impressions: love at the first sight. I'm staying with the new set up from the first training session, specially because I feel more control with this blade. |
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Baal
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I really wish Btfly would make that Waldner style oval-shaped ST handle an option on all their blades.
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player87
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Any other feedbacks on this blade? Really looking for balanced blade NOT HEAD HEAVY so it will be easy for wrist to make short spiny loops and faster recovery after FH loops.
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king_pong
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A couple favorable reviews over here — http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/donic-waldner-jo-shape-limited-edition
That's where I bought mine. Good site if you haven't purchased from them before.
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Lawson
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As I said, with Baracuda and Joola X-Plode max is clearly head heavy, specially if I compare with my other blade Dicon with Acuda and Joola X-Plode 2.0, wich is very balanced. But I don't know determining is rubbers weigh in this case. I also want to know some other reviews here, it seems some pleople brough it only with collector's purpose, not for playing.
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player87
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what is the weight of your blade and handle type?
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Lawson
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Handle is ST, I don't know it's weight. After your concern with balancing of blade, I checked it again, and is not THAT head heavy. Check out the photo... |
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player87
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I have approximately the same balance on my Maze
Thank you for the picture though. |
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Ladon1997
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How dies it compare to 89 Limired Edition ?
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king_pong
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The Donic World Champion 89 Waldner OFF, you mean? I'll bet that it has a completely different feel. Firstly, the WC 89 Waldner OFF is a thick carbon fleece blade, with outer plies of Italian Spruce and a Kiri core. The overall thickness is listed as 6.9mm. The Donic Waldner Limited, on the other hand, is the classic Swedish offensive 5-ply, Limba over Spruce, with a core of Ayous and a thickness of around 5.8mm. Finally, the two blades are made at different factories — the WC 89 Waldner OFF is made in Germany (Soulspin, I presume), while the Donic Waldner Limited is made in Tranås, Sweden at Woodhouse AB.
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player87
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Strange but no reviews of thread in the equipment theme.
I am going to try this out soon. How do you think which rubber will suit this blade? Thinking of paring with baracude on FH and Joola Maxxp on Bh. Or mabye try ELS 1.9 both sides? I am two wing looper. Playing close to the table to mid distance max. Looping movement from Left side is quite short not classic european style but more asian however FH loop is more classic european loop. Very concerned about weight balance. Downgrading from M.Maze to all wood to build up technique with coach and back to M.Maze or maybe to 7 ply wood blade with Limba outer. |
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Brahms
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Hello, I bought a second hand blade to try as I own a Kong Linghui Classic and Special as well. I also own a Waldner Senso Carbon. The first test was with a pair of old Donic Baracuda 2mm... Very disappointed. I hate this mushy feeling... and tons of vibrations then I gave up very quickly... The second one was with a pair of Donic Bluefire Bigslam ...a little bit better but still this feeling I just don't fit with. Not so fast from what I've seen, maybe the egg shape is not for me... The WSC is much better IMHO. I believe this blade to remind me the stiga off classic that I didn't enjoyed too much. I finished my training with butterfly grubba all+ and 2 Baracuda... lot of control and the feeling is good. From the the few minutes I've played with JO waldner limited edition it's far different compare with KLH or WSC which is really good blade. My banda old trip has been shorten a lot. Maybe other player will experience this blade with much success. Hope it helps. Brahms Edited by Brahms - 11/29/2016 at 5:25pm |
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Blade : Aero off+ soft carbon
FH : Tuttle 888 Extraterrestrial 2.2mm BH : Dr Neubauer Killer Pro 1.8mm |
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vajica
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Here are my two cents...
Played the blade recently with MX-S 1.9-2.0 on FH side and Vega Europe DF 2.0 on BH side. Vega Europe is imo too soft for this blade so I switched to another MX-S 1.7-1.8. Such a strange blade, if you use the middle part of the blade it plays direct enough that the blocks and smashes work great. On the other hand upper part (because of the shape, I suppose) has quite a bit of vibration to it and helps spiny shots a lot. That part reminds me on Liu Shiwen, but I am waaay better in smashing with Waldner. Speed is somewhere between off- and off, with plastic balls I would rather say off-. I suppose that you will either love or hate the blade with two different characters, I personally love it, and think of playing with it for the season. Amazing value for money, but please do seal it! I don't seal my blades (mostly play Butterfly which are factory sealed) and after first taking of the bh rubber I got two heavy splinters glued to the sponge instead of the blade face. |
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Very nice review moj brate. I hope you enjoy it. I personally dont glue it cause I want this "limited edition" to have more value.
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Shifu
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I also got one, just to collect. It's actually one of the heavier ones with 84 grams, I had another one which was really light and I heard that many are lighter than the old Bandas
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Pejantan
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Just bought this twin...JO waldner and JO wadlner Senso Carbon. In my opinion the wood grain on waldner senso is better than waldner, just like my old avalox p700...overall, both are nice blades and nice grips (senso is a little bit smaller)
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tabletennis11
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In case you're interested, we've recently published an expert review of this blade on our blog. Feel free to leave your feedback. We'd be happy to hear your thoughts. Edited by tabletennis11 - 04/23/2017 at 4:21am |
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