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    Posted: 08/12/2016 at 8:02am
Can someone recommend a less sensiyive to incoming spin alterneative to tenergy 05fx and something slightly less bouncy??  But still really spinny!  Soft or Hard but not DHS

I was thinking Aurus sound.  Dontlike Evolution does not last!!

Also considered 1.9 and 1.7 sponge instead.  Love the spin but sometimes lack control!

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I am slithly hesitant to say this, but I would try 1.9 of the new Bryce high speed rubber. Especially if the t05fx you want to replace is on the backhand. It surprisingly is a spiny rubber. I used to play Tenergy 05 and 64 on backhand on ALC blade now I went to all wood blade with Bryce HS on both sides and I can generate more power, while having more control and also good amount of spin.
If you are playing with Carbon or ALC blade you should consider staying with T05fx or trying 64fx which definitely is less sensitive to incoming spin.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ri0t1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/12/2016 at 12:57pm
I don't know why but Xiom vega asia or Euro comes to mind for a backhand. I felt the transition from the vega euro to 05fx was almost seamless.

Donic Blue Fire JP 03 or 02 also comes to mind as being a spinny rubber with a bunch of control.
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Isn't aurus sound the softest aurus rubber? Wouldn't aurus 'soft' be the ideal comparison to t05fx?
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Originally posted by nv42 nv42 wrote:

Isn't aurus sound the softest aurus rubber? Wouldn't aurus 'soft' be the ideal comparison to t05fx?


I just don't want to lose spin. if I have to work harder to open up on the backhand that is not a problem.
I just want a bit (lot if its possible) less sensitivity to fast spinny serves.
plus less catapult so I can keep the ball shorter when I drive, I have a very strong backhand drive but 05fx is a touch too bouncy.
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Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:

Can someone recommend a less sensiyive to incoming spin alterneative to tenergy 05fx and something slightly less bouncy??

Isn't that sheer definition of Donic Barracuda?

never played with it but I've always heard it's like a just as spiny but slower Tenergy. IDK.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wilkinru Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/12/2016 at 2:04pm
I want this too - and I want it to be lighter.

In fact if it could be long pips and then morph into T05 after the return that would be fantastic :)
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yes ive been down the long pips route. I want a button on my bat so I can play long pips or inverted or anti loop without twiddling
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wilkinru Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/12/2016 at 2:13pm
I'm somewhat tempted to try the spiniest short pips. Could I backhand loop with it?

In the end I think I just need to learn to return the fast spinney serves better.
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You should try donic baracuda big slam.
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Originally posted by wilkinru wilkinru wrote:

I'm somewhat tempted to try the spiniest short pips. Could I backhand loop with it?

In the end I think I just need to learn to return the fast spinney serves better.

Yeah if you're contemplating this change based on service return, I suppose I'd recommend trying to simply improve your return game vs changing equipment to make up for it.
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Xiom vega pro if you don't something a bit hard, or xiom vega euro df both fairly insensitive to spin but can create pretty good spin.
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Originally posted by wilkinru wilkinru wrote:

I'm somewhat tempted to try the spiniest short pips. Could I backhand loop with it?


Butterfly Challenger Attack 1.9 in black.  No other SP is spinnier yet easy to control.
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Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

Tibhar 5q sound


Hi yogi im glad you commented I like your reviews. I have just been reading about 5q sound.

other thing is I am fed up of paying £50 for tenergys

how catapulty is 5q sound? I almost think I need to go all the way back to aurus sound as I guess its less bouncy.

My early backhand and drive is my most consistent shot, im not a great player but for my level I can hit backhands with anything, however I don't want to lose that really spinny opening backhand against a long push on backhand.

PS - I have persevered with the TSPW and my serves have improved and I have adjusted to the bounce after about a month.

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If you think Evolution doesnt last enough stay all these are nearly the same or even worse. Evo is one of the most durable ESN rubbers. Btw, if it's spinny then don't pretend to be less spin sensitive, unless you're looking a Chinese rubber.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mog1111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/12/2016 at 6:41pm
evo is too bouncy anyway. looks very tuned to me. I cant play with Chinese rubbers too slow. tried h3 neo and its too slow when I drive although it is spinny

I don't really need a really spinny rubber. used tibhar rapid for years and years
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Victas V15 Extra is an option, the V15 Limber is closer in hardness to Tenergy 05 FX, but also as bouncy. They're definitely much less sensitive to incoming spin, but not quite as spinny as Tenergy (still very good spin though).


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Tenergy 80 fits your requirements. Just choose your thickness...

Oh oh... You don't want Tenergy anymore...
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At least 5q sound is not as bouncy as mxp. It is soft though but very spinny. Aurus sound's spin is lesser to 5q sound's
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mog1111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/13/2016 at 6:37am
I know this a bit far out, but I am considering tibhar super defence in 1.9mm I know it will be slow but it is spinny and a lot of my backhand speed is in my arm.
it wont be catapulty and bouncy
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Originally posted by suds79 suds79 wrote:

Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:

Can someone recommend a less sensiyive to incoming spin alterneative to tenergy 05fx and something slightly less bouncy??

Isn't that sheer definition of Donic Barracuda?

never played with it but I've always heard it's like a just as spiny but slower Tenergy. IDK.

Baracuda is very spinny, almost as T05, but also slower. However it is also very sensitive to incoming spin, more than T05 FX!
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I am actually going to switch to a really slow rubber on my backhand. Probably Mambo H it is very allround but very insensitive to incoming spin.

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Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:

I am actually going to switch to a really slow rubber on my backhand. Probably Mambo H it is very allround but very insensitive to incoming spin.



If it's really slow and insensitive to spin you are after, then you should consider Xiom Musa...

Typically cheaper too...
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an old rubber with worn out topsheet is the best you will find for this.
old tenergy would be great.


Edited by lucifer - 08/16/2016 at 10:50am
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its 2 edged I want it to grip enough for me to open up with or push
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Omega V Euro. I m using this now for my Bh and its not as sensitive to incoming spin, but very good at opening up heavy Backspin.
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rocketman222: how do you find the O5E? Similar to Rasant Grip?

I love the topsheet of O5E. Wish its sponge was another 1.5 degrees harder though.
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if your technique is good you can get good spin from old tenergy.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mog1111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/16/2016 at 2:30pm
tenergy is too bouncy for me.
its great when im attacking but im too suspect when countering or returning fast long spinny serves.
I think I played for too many years with old school rubbers on backhand and have toomuch muscle memory to really change.
Fh I am ok but I have found last few days 1.9 better than 2.1
think i am too flat and direct to play with bouncy max tensors
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