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rjett
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Posted: 03/29/2017 at 9:31pm |
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Can't believe no one has mentioned Sanwei Target National.
Wonderful choice. |
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Egghead
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spinart , if you have $ to burn, that is the rubber you must use.
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Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
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chop4ever
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Why not using tuning to increase Chinese rubber speed. Most Chinese rubbers are very dry and slow. By applying exactly the oil that BTY or ESN used, we can make a similar rubber to them.
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster |
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Tabmini
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Battle II is worth to try. The topsheet has mild tack but very grippy and Soft. It reminds me of Xiom Vega Euro.
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My feedback :
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Knuckle Ball
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I have both Moon and T05. They are worlds apart. Moon cannot even come close to the spin capabilities of the T05. I find my 05 better than Moon be it on FH or BH side.
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yogi_bear
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butterfly spin art and tibhar evolution mx-s
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bbkon
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dhs selling h3 gets 3x more money than butterfly selling tenergy ,the big cake are the under 1500 amateurs market |
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bbkon
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dhs selling h3 gets 3x more money than butterfly selling tenergy the big cake are the amateurs |
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Egghead
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No chinese rubber is similar to T05. They said yinhe moon is similar to T05 too
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Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
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bbkon
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tinarc 3 soft is awesome not very demanding like h3 but spinny |
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el_bichito
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Ok so i have ordered
Sanwei t88- II Hurricane 3 Neo 729 Battle II Yinhe Moon Speed anything else worth considering that are good? i was told by a seller on ebay that. 61second Eagle or 61second kongaroo are similar to Tenergy 05? Anyone tried this before?http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/61second-Eagle-Pips-in-Table-Tennis-Rubber-with-yellow-Sponge-/252647180507?hash=item3ad2f208db:g:wSoAAOSw4GVYM~Tu
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Blade: Stiga Infinity VPS
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Egghead
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that is true, the rubbers did help a lot, remember in old day, people said player should use an unforgiven rubber (aka chinese rubber) to develop a good tech. Anyway, spinart is really different from tenergy.
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Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
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el luchador
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true but tenergy helps the player with the bounciness. some cheap rubbers make the player do ALL the work. which may even be a good thing depending on style and skill level.
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bbkon
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a lot of people that play with tenergy can get the same spinny shots with a 20$ rubber the marketing weights more than common sense |
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BeaverMD
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I have a couple of club mates that switched from T05 to Yinhe Moon Speed and have never looked back. One is about 1950 and the other 2150. Both use black on the FH and they both use BTY carbon blades. They both use pretty hard sponge version and both use edge tape that covers the sponge and topsheet. Another player uses Yinhe Earth and about 1850 counterhitter. Good luck.
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Egghead
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Reactor Ckylin Blue Porous Sponge edition is very slow; may be the old version of Reactor tornado
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Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
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el luchador
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Sanwei T88-ii is the closest tenergy like rubber ive ever tried. and it only costs $10.
the sponge even has the same porosity as tenergy. the only thing is its a little softer than t05 so on the hardest shots it will bottom out before t05. spin imo is identical. haifu blue whale is not even close.
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el_bichito
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thanks for all the great tips. i just ordered two new blades to try. well one i already have(just buying a back up for the stiga infinity VPS diamond touch) and the other is the Tibhar Samsonov pro black edition. i wont be using booster either.
i wanted to try some rubbers on them. Has anyone tried any of these rubbers below and are they any good? how do they play? and what are they comparable too. or have any other suggestions, to add to list, of whats worth getting. i ordered a yinhe moon speed already but has not arrived yet. i also bought a 729 battle II and it was nice, predictable and very light. - Reactor Ckylin Blue Porous Sponge edition - Hurricane 3 Neo - Yinhe Big Dipper - Sanwei T88-I - Tuttle Beijing III - Haifu Blue whale II black sponge
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Blade: Stiga Infinity VPS
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Knuckle Ball
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Yap I agree with JK92. Reactor rubbers are OK, I have some Ckylin and Tornado. Bang for bucks rubber by Reactor. Good enough if you can't have a tensor.
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Blade: Rosewood NCT V
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edgy
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eacheng is probably your best bet: http://www.eacheng.net/Reactor-Ckylin-Small-Blue-Fire-p12001.html
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asifgunz
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Thought there were multiple versions of it. Can you provide a link to where you bought yours from
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jk92
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I think H3-50 can be used on backhand and forehand fairly nicely, I have used both and the spin and touch on fast, stiffer blades is nice. I am interested to see Skyline 3-60 on both FH and BH too, as I feel it will also be suitable for both wings.
Although not a popular opinion, I have played with a lesser known chinese rubber called Reactor Ckylin Blue Porous Sponge edition (Chinese bluefire), which to me is literally a very good facsimile of Donic Bluefire I have compared it side by side with a sheet of Donic JP02 and it is close in speed and spin, great feel and control. Looping underspin on the backhand feels really great and is spinny. At about $10 US I highly recommend it, even if just to try.
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Ladon1997
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TG3-60 is made for BH when you use H3 as FH, find your feet on thiscombo
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Alwin
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If you're considering H3-50 for BH then I would definitely suggest TG3-60 as well. From what I've heard it's lighter and bouncier but still not as good as a tensor for BH imho. Also H3-50 is not a lot cheaper than a tensor here in AUS.
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T05H | HL5 | TG3-60
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passifid
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H3-50 is pretty good at backhand, but no where near as fast as a euro tensor
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GeroJerry
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So which will be better in BH?
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Ladon1997
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TA-3 is slow rubber for looping and spin. H3-50 is fast rubber for topspin wiry low arc flow, suits for attack.
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GeroJerry
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Anyone has tried these rubbers,
DHS Hurricane 3-50 soft and DHS TinArc 3 And what's the difference between both of them?!
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GeroJerry
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Any one has tried these rubbers and what's the difference between them?
DHS hurricane 3-50 soft and DHS TinArc 3
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jonyer1980
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MXS?
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Rosewood V FL
Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
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