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    Posted: 11/22/2016 at 10:51pm
Got it from kokusai takkyu - Takanobaba, handpicked by my tt soul mate Rokphish Big smile
A lot of pictures, cause the top ply will looks different from different lighting condition.
Will test it soon.


























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Real nice! Now how does it play? What type of playing style is it best suited?
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Really sexy. Did you request the weight? Most seem to be at 80 g.

WRM did a review of it a while ago and recommended Rasant Grip + Rasant PowerGrip.

It is most certainly an drive-looper's blade


Edited by gekogark1212 - 11/23/2016 at 10:55pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peter79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/23/2016 at 11:27pm
Originally posted by gekogark1212 gekogark1212 wrote:

Really sexy. Did you request the weight? Most seem to be at 80 g.

WRM did a review of it a while ago and recommended Rasant Grip + Rasant PowerGrip.

It is most certainly an drive-looper's blade


Yes I ask the heaviest available at that time which is 84 gr.
I will pair it with H3 National Blue sponge and Tenergy 05
I saw the WRM website, from 1 batch (200 blades)
Only: 4 pcs 88 gr
         4 pcs 89 gr
         1 Pcs 90 gr

I got the other one which is 88 gr


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Originally posted by Knuckle Ball Knuckle Ball wrote:

Real nice! Now how does it play? What type of playing style is it best suited?


I haven't tried it, will try it and give a review of it.
I test it by bouncing the ball, I feel the ball is being absorp and then suddenly it kicks the ball upward.

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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
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Peter, does the center ply look the same as your Wan AO Off? 
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Peter, does the center ply look the same as your Wan AO Off? 


I'm not really sure about this, Ren feels softer than AO.
The Wan AO off has secondary ply that make this blade hard.

The different between Andro Wanokiwami Ren with Clipper series:
Ren has the widest gear blade that I own.
Clipper I found it difficult to play slow, when I bounce the ball slowly, it bounce high.
The feel of Ren is a bit softer than Clipper due to the weight difference.
Ren has a hard top ply mixed with softer inner ply
While Clipper has a soft top ply mixed with harder inner ply.
Playing with Clipper series, I found I have more power than 5 ply, but less control.
Playing with Ren, I feel have the same power with Clipper CC but with more spin and control and it's light.

Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
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Peter, you can't tell if the center ply of the REN is the same as that of the AO, fair enough.  Could REN's center ply be easily dented with your fingernails?  I am interested if it has a soft center  ply as well.  
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Peter, from your photos the REN looks like it has 7 plies.t  Could you confirm that?

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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Peter, you can't tell if the center ply of the REN is the same as that of the AO, fair enough.  Could REN's center ply be easily dented with your fingernails?  I am interested if it has a soft center  ply as well.  

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Peter, from your photos the REN looks like it has 7 plies.t  Could you confirm that?


Yes Ren is 7 ply blades, probably 2 of the ply is the same with Andro Wanokiwami Center Ply.
Not sure what kind of wood in the center and 2 other thin ply....
I would not dent the center ply with my fingernails, why don't you buy and test it yourself and let me know LOL
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thanks Peter. I did dent the center ply in a couple of spots on the AO I just got. Just curious on how different is the REN.











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For some reason it looks like kiri, along with the third and fifth ply. 
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Peter, do you like the REN or AO more?  Do they play very different?
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Congratulations on your new blade Peter ! I think this one should be very good as you seem to be very excited about this .
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Originally posted by aeoliah aeoliah wrote:

Congratulations on your new blade Peter ! I think this one should be very good as you seem to be very excited about this .


Thanks Aeoliah Tongue
This blade is made for polyball, for cellouid ball it's not suitable Confused
I play 3 times a week, at one club once a week is using cellouid ball only.
So now I use Acoustic Inner Carbon back again, since Acoustic Inner Carbon is good to use either plastic ball or cellouid ball.

I lost control when playing with Ren if using Cellouid ball Cry


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Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

Ren has a hard top ply mixed with softer inner ply
While Clipper has a soft top ply mixed with harder inner ply
   

Sorry for laughing, but Cliper has (and always had) limba outer and ayous inner. And Ayous is definitely softer than limba - without any doubt.
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Originally posted by Magic_M Magic_M wrote:

Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

Ren has a hard top ply mixed with softer inner ply
While Clipper has a soft top ply mixed with harder inner ply
   

Sorry for laughing, but Cliper has (and always had) limba outer and ayous inner. And Ayous is definitely softer than limba - without any doubt.




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Yes, you're right Magic_M, ayous is softer than limba. But Clipper feels harder than Ren. It seems that Ren use a softer inner ply than ayous.
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Peter, do you like the REN or AO more?  Do they play very different?

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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Peter, do you like the REN or AO more?  Do they play very different?


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I like the curve of the 5 ply, 7 ply is lower. I like Ao more because it's harder and has more control. Ren has more kick and power but I found it more difficult to play all around.
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thanks Peter.  that will save me a few bucks.  Happy New Year.
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How about the flexibility of the blade(REN)? Is this too stiff or mid-stiff/mid-flex blade? From your review it's confirm that one will have a hard time in the blocking department with this blade because it's less hardness !!?? ConfusedConfused  
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 hello
which is most faster: Andro Wanokiwami Ren or Nittaku Acoustic?
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Originally posted by Jubaer hossain Jubaer hossain wrote:

How about the flexibility of the blade(REN)? Is this too stiff or mid-stiff/mid-flex blade? From your review it's confirm that one will have a hard time in the blocking department with this blade because it's less hardness !!?? ConfusedConfused  

it is a mid flex blade, it feels soft. It has a catapult feel which make it difficult to block the ball consistently.

Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2
Baracuda Max
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Originally posted by scdit46 scdit46 wrote:

 hello
which is most faster: Andro Wanokiwami Ren or Nittaku Acoustic?
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Andro Wanokiwami Ren is faster, but feels softer.
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