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Originally posted by rocketman222 rocketman222 wrote:

Originally posted by MCollins MCollins wrote:

"R47 is not a T05 for sissies like Rozena"

T05 for sissies?  Now that sounds like my kind of rubber!

haha, yeah honestly for most amateur players at our level, it is way easier to play with rozena/t05 than r47 and if rozena is the same price as r47, its a hard choice.

I would think R42 is more comparable to Rozena than R47. Don't you think?

I also find R42 easier to play with than Rozena.


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After a few training sessions my R47 has finally softened and now is playing closer to the Rasant powergrip. Topsheet still feels a tad harder though.

The V42 is actually quite slow, good on terms of short game and control but will not deliver the speed advertised unless on a fast blade (I'm using 5ply wood).

I'd imagine the Rozena would be easier to pick up and play with.
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Originally posted by gekogark1212 gekogark1212 wrote:

After a few training sessions my R47 has finally softened and now is playing closer to the Rasant powergrip. Topsheet still feels a tad harder though.

The V42 is actually quite slow, good on terms of short game and control but will not deliver the speed advertised unless on a fast blade (I'm using 5ply wood).

I'd imagine the Rozena would be easier to pick up and play with.


Hello @Geko,

May I know what colour was your R47? I felt the red was softer than black. But maybe that's just me....
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I have the R47 in black. Funny you mention that, I have always preferred the red sheets when I was using Rasant grip and powergrip. For like two years or so, everytime I used the black sheets I felt it didn't spin as well as the red.
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Originally posted by gekogark1212 gekogark1212 wrote:

I have the R47 in black. Funny you mention that, I have always preferred the red sheets when I was using Rasant grip and powergrip. For like two years or so, everytime I used the black sheets I felt it didn't spin as well as the red.


HAH! Now that you mention it too. I doubt myself, a little less. 😂
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R47 2.0 becomes much softer overtime, I will switch to R50 2.0 I think, on a 5-ply all wood it should remain controllable and after 10 hours, it might feel like a true 47.5 (?)
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So gotta get the Ultramax. That bastard has been sitting on the shelves for months.

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These are my thoughts about the Rasanter Series rubbers and I am just gonna summarize each of the rubber’s characteristics. Most of them are very good and some a bit unnecessary but probably there was an intended design and types of players Andro is targeting with some of the Rasanter versions.

 

The R37 is the softest Rasanter rubber among its brothers. It has a more firm sponge compared to the Rasant Beat and also several notches faster. It is a more of a control type of rubber. It is only mildly fast that even intermediate players at max sponge thickness can control it. The ball sinks deeply into the sponge when you are hitting hard against hit however, it requires a bit of effort to spin and loop drive. Smashes are medium fast but very easy to control. Blocking is the best feature for this rubber. This would be an excellent blocking rubber due to being soft and insensitive to incoming spin. Weight = 63 grams uncut

 

The V42 and R42 are almost similar rubbers and with just a few differences. Both have the same softness even if topsheet is considered together with the sponge. Basically, both rubbers are medium soft. Both are very bouncy and fast and I would put the speed as faster than a Xiom Vega Europe. In a way, the R42 is a notch spinnier than the XVE. This is best suited for the backhand (both V42 and R42). Intermediate players can use for some time to further develop their strokes and skills. Both rubbers are at low to medium height in arc when looping. Best strokes for this rubbers are either smashing or blocking. V42 = 64 grams uncut; R42 = 66grams uncut

 

The V47 and the R47 a distinction or 2 from each other which is speed and spin. The V47 being the faster one and it is very bouncy. I can compare the speed at the level of a TIbhar MX-P but the V47 feels like a much more firm than Aurus.   The V47 is purely more on hitting, smashing, counter driving. I would choose Counter driving as its best asset and this is medium to far distance from the table. It is easier to counter with this version than the R47 because it has lesser spin sensitivity and very fast speed. I could put it in par with MX-P or Joola Rhyzm 48 in terms of speed with spin slightly lower. The R47 however has it all – spin, speed, control. I think even without the V47, the R47 will still be preferred by more players since it has more spin and it can almost do everything the V47 can do. The R47 is good both inside and far from the table. You can flick well with it and do drop shots while maintaining control. V47 = 68grams ; R47 = 69grams

 

The R50 is my favorite among the 6 rubbers. It is not the fastest rubber among the series because both the 47 version rubbers are faster than the R50. Sometimes, I would find the 42 degree versions bouncier than the R50. The powergrip version has some similarities with the R50 but the R50 is very easy to produce spin. The topsheet and sponge grips the ball easily compared to the Powergrip which I find not so spinny before unless you put some effort. I find it very spinny and I would rate the spin as a little less than mx-s but spinnier than el-s at slow loops. If I compare it with the MX-P, the MX-P seems spinnier on stronger shots while R50 is spinnier on slow spinny loops. The speed is good enough and it is in the level of EL-S but it is not too bouncy. Moreover, I would like to describe it as an MX-S rubber with an increased speed. I like it better than the EL-S because there are some shots with the EL-S that seems dead or less lively. The R50 can serve and push well because of the grippy topsheet. It behaves almost like a Chinese rubber inside the table using drop shots or short pushes while maintaining the spin. I would recommend it both as a forehand and backhand rubber. It is not even choosy with the blade. R50 = 72 grams uncut

 

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Mr. Yogi can you please compare R42 with rakza 7 soft, I still have no idea what new generation rubber (for plastic ball) should I use to replace my r7soft on backhand. Thank you.
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i think rakza 7 soft is a tad softer but if you are used to it already in your backhand, i suggest you stay with it. even with polyballs it is still good.
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Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

i think rakza 7 soft is a tad softer but if you are used to it already in your backhand, i suggest you stay with it. even with polyballs it is still good.


Thank you very much, I will keep my beloved R7s on backhand!
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Guess I'm bumping a old thread.

Anything comparable to Barracuda 2.0? It seems like 42 is softer and 47 might be harder.
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Originally posted by wilkinru wilkinru wrote:

Guess I'm bumping a old thread.

Anything comparable to Barracuda 2.0? It seems like 42 is softer and 47 might be harder.


Not from the Rasanter family - why not just use Baracuda 2.0 if you like Baracuda 2.0.
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by wilkinru wilkinru wrote:

Guess I'm bumping a old thread.

Anything comparable to Barracuda 2.0? It seems like 42 is softer and 47 might be harder.


Not from the Rasanter family - why not just use Baracuda 2.0 if you like Baracuda 2.0.


I'm looking for something just a little harder on the sponge but not giving up the spin. Baracuda can be a little bouncy and perhaps I'll improve my game with something a bit more technically challenging. I want to EJ but just a little :) Thanks for the reply, I'll look around for something else.




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baracuda and rasanter r47 are such interesting rubbers, do it all on steroids, they support a no nonsense looping game while being super stable when hitting. Far above the tenergy series I consider those 2 the best rubbers ever for the typical club player all the way to the pros.
It seems like the r47 fh and baracuda bh is a great average club player equivalent of the combos high level players use, a great start. 
I have not tried rozena and I am not sure it is necessary given the $10 savings per rubber (when we buy several through mytt connectionsWink) r47 and baracuda give.


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i play with r47bh r47fh 2.00mm i have to say played best table tennis ever with new rubbers, andro triber z blade bring it on.
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My 2 R47 2.0 on a Violin are still playing strong after nearly 3 months of play; the spin is excellent, they got a bit softer; lifting underspin long serves is easier than ever; it remains my rubber of choice for a long time ahead.
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I'm thinking of trying it the R47. Who sad the best price currently?
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33 euro + 2 euro tax, 35 euro total SmileBeer
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TibiKE is selling Rasanter for 33 Euros.
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just had 2 rubbers from TibiKE R47 BH R47 FH AWESOME SELLER 66EUROS for both.
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Originally posted by neon neon wrote:

33 euro + 2 euro tax, 35 euro total SmileBeer
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is R50  look like RAKZA-X ? 
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tabletennis-point.com sell 4 rubbers for 123 euro. its only 30 euro for one rubber
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Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

i think rakza 7 soft is a tad softer but if you are used to it already in your backhand, i suggest you stay with it. even with polyballs it is still good.


Dear Mr. Yogi, Will I like R47 if I'm currently using MX-P on my FH and playing the best games of my life but I find it's power+spin degrades very quickly, within a couple of weeks and has shrinkage issues. And is it safe to assume it is not be as hard as the MX-P?
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Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

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<p ="msonospacing"=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt">These are my thoughts
about the Rasanter Series rubbers and I am just gonna summarize each of the
rubber’s characteristics. Most of them are very good and some a bit unnecessary
but probably there was an intended design and types of players Andro is targeting
with some of the Rasanter versions. <o:p></o:p></span>



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<p ="msonospacing"=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt">The R37 is the softest
Rasanter rubber among its brothers. It has a more firm sponge compared to the
Rasant Beat and also several notches faster. It is a more of a control type of
rubber. It is only mildly fast that even intermediate players at max sponge
thickness can control it. The ball sinks deeply into the sponge when you are
hitting hard against hit however, it requires a bit of effort to spin and loop
drive. Smashes are medium fast but very easy to control. Blocking is the best
feature for this rubber. This would be an excellent blocking rubber due to
being soft and insensitive to incoming spin. Weight = 63 grams uncut<o:p></o:p></span>



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<p ="msonospacing"=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt">The V42 and R42 are almost
similar rubbers and with just a few differences. Both have the same softness
even if topsheet is considered together with the sponge. Basically, both
rubbers are medium soft. Both are very bouncy and fast and I would put the
speed as faster than a Xiom Vega Europe. In a way, the R42 is a notch spinnier
than the XVE. This is best suited for the backhand (both V42 and R42).
Intermediate players can use for some time to further develop their strokes and
skills. Both rubbers are at low to medium height in arc when looping. Best
strokes for this rubbers are either smashing or blocking. V42 = 64 grams uncut;
R42 = 66grams uncut<o:p></o:p></span>



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<p ="msonospacing"=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt">The V47 and the R47 a
distinction or 2 from each other which is speed and spin. The V47 being the
faster one and it is very bouncy. I can compare the speed at the level of a
TIbhar MX-P but the V47 feels like a much more firm than Aurus.   The V47 is purely more on hitting, smashing,
counter driving. I would choose Counter driving as its best asset and this is
medium to far distance from the table. It is easier to counter with this
version than the R47 because it has lesser spin sensitivity and very fast
speed. I could put it in par with MX-P or Joola Rhyzm 48 in terms of speed with
spin slightly lower. The R47 however has it all – spin, speed, control. I think
even without the V47, the R47 will still be preferred by more players since it
has more spin and it can almost do everything the V47 can do. The R47 is good
both inside and far from the table. You can flick well with it and do drop
shots while maintaining control. V47 = 68grams ; R47 = 69grams<o:p></o:p></span>



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<p ="msonospacing"=""><span style="font-size:14.0pt">The R50 is my favorite
among the 6 rubbers. It is not the fastest rubber among the series because both
the 47 version rubbers are faster than the R50. Sometimes, I would find the 42
degree versions bouncier than the R50. The powergrip version has some
similarities with the R50 but the R50 is very easy to produce spin. The
topsheet and sponge grips the ball easily compared to the Powergrip which I
find not so spinny before unless you put some effort. I find it very spinny and
I would rate the spin as a little less than mx-s but spinnier than el-s at slow
loops. If I compare it with the MX-P, the MX-P seems spinnier on stronger shots
while R50 is spinnier on slow spinny loops. The speed is good enough and it is
in the level of EL-S but it is not too bouncy. Moreover, I would like to
describe it as an MX-S rubber with an increased speed. I like it better than
the EL-S because there are some shots with the EL-S that seems dead or less
lively. The R50 can serve and push well because of the grippy topsheet. It
behaves almost like a Chinese rubber inside the table using drop shots or short
pushes while maintaining the spin. I would recommend it both as a forehand and
backhand rubber. It is not even choosy with the blade. R50 = 72 grams uncut<o:p></o:p></span>



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Dear yogi,
Very nice review i like mxs a lot but it lasts only 2 weeks due to the booster. Now rasanter 50 vs tibhar aurus prime which is faster spinnier better in the short game and serves?
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So, can we consider R47 as a good replacement for the good old Hexer? Did anyone try both?
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