Bad rubbers

The worst of the lot for me was Stiga's Magna TCII. Not sure if the regular magna was any good but ordered this one under the assumption that it would be close to Boost TC or be something similar in that range. It turned out to be a dud. It has such a low throw and no speed, no power...just control. Don't know what it is good for because if you try using that control on the forehand, then the rubber lands into the net. If you try using it on the backhand, there isn't enough spring to land the ball across the net. And then there is Tibhar's Grip-S. Such a huge quality control disaster. The first sheet that I bought was amazing to play with. It was a dream. The moment I removed its glue layer though, it became a piece of shit. 

Knuckle Ball wrote: Those difficult to use effectively at your current style and skill level.  So the bad rubbers for me have changed much over the course of many years. Calibra LT I found too bouncy and too fast. Trajectory too flat, couldn't get enough spin on low and medium effort strokes or loops. That was a few years ago when it first came out, now my skill level has improved and I find it not too bad. A few years ago, I actually hated T05, too spin sensitive, hard to control, too fast so bouncy. Now I can use it for an active offensive style of play and I believe it is the best rubber for FH and BH. It may be bad rubber cause I don't know how to use it. Bryce Speed which I first used a few months ago I initially labeled 'bad rubber'. Couldn't generate decent spin on loops, too fast. Drive angle was all wrong, push had less spin, must have given up on it but by just sheer luck, tried switching it to my BH side. Now something just clicked in; insensitive to incoming spin so great service receive, very good and solid for blocks with stinging punchblocks. Great at smashing high spinny loops, fantastic at counters and smashing put aways. What I initially thought as 'bad rubber' was in fact a 'plug n play' rubber for my BH. Just need time to learn how to use it. crap rubber for some may be gold for others.  A club mate gave me two pieces of ten year old Srivers red and black. I stuck it on the BHs of two separate blades. I didn't mind if it has lost most of its spin as I used to play with anti rubbers on my BH. It turned out to be two of my most effective setups, good service receive, great control on blocks, I can chop block on the table and chop from afar. Inconsistency in the spin generation of the rubber drove my opponents nuts. Blocks against drives and loops sometimes gave back less spin, no spin, sinking knuckle balls.

From what you are writing it seems this is the result of you preferring low throw angle rubbers on your backhand.

Both the Calibra LT and Bryce family of rubbers are known for being good inverted rubbers to switch to for people that are used to short pips. They help alleviate the mid-distance weakness of short pips while retaining the spin insensitivity and lower trajectory that are the strong suits of short pips, at least as close as possible for inverted rubber.

Low throw angle is often a dirty term for many, especially on the forehand, but for those that seek it or benefit from it those rubbers are a pretty good choice.

1dennistt wrote: For me that rubber was Tibhar Grip S Europe, my comments on this rubber would parallel your's for Beijing 4, exactly the same.  Couldn't figure out what went wrong at the time...but never tried it again to see if it was a quality control problem or just one bad sheet.

yogi_bear wrote: i do not like Rakza 9. IT feels like a brick but it isn't that fast and you have to put effort in your brush contact against the ball if you want to produce good amount of spin.

really?
 I've really enjoyed using Rakza 9-indeed (after 6 months-good durability as the old sheet was still usable), i've just glued on a second sheet. Feels fairly (but not crazily) fast and spinny to me...

Bad rubbers for me was like DHS H3 Neo :-P DHS G888 :-P DHS TG3 Neo  

GeneralSpecific wrote: Years back when I tested Tuttle Beijing 4 I really liked the rubber a lot. I even made my first video review of it explaining how I liked it. However, after 1 month both the topsheet and the sponge died. After the second month the rubber turned into a bad antispin rubber and became unplayable. If anyone ever decides to purchase this rubber be prepared to change it once per month. Though I think at that point it's better to get something more durable.

The only rubber I would consider 'bad' is one that has production issues, resulting in inconsistencies between sheets or in extremely short durability. There are just bad combinations, such as too bouncy or too undynamic setups. But that still depends on personal preference.

i do not like Rakza 9. IT feels like a brick but it isn't that fast and you have to put effort in your brush contact against the ball if you want to produce good amount of spin.

ronakvyas86 wrote: Also, I splintered my favourite blade while removing rakza.

Rakza...you bad rubber you making his blade splinter and all.....

TT newbie wrote: Worst rubber I´ve ever tried was Bluefire M1. It´s heavy, uncontrollable, and too fast for me

Because it was too fast for you and basically the wrong rubber for YOU, it's a bad rubber? I'm starting to wonder what I'm reading on these forums.

Worst rubber I´ve ever tried was Bluefire M1. It´s heavy, uncontrollable, and too fast for me. Oh yeah, and I had issues trying to glue that shit, ops.. that sheet.

gekogark1212 wrote: But fair to your point, many years ago I used all sorts of rubbers and I agree with you that spinny anti rubber is just awful, sorry, AWFUL to play with. I'm looking at you 729 804. *death eyes*

That's what I thought of EL-P at the start. Then eventually, and I mean like a year and a half later, I like it. I think we all have different expectations of a rubber depending on how we pair it with blades, our changes in styles, our improvements etc

There are no bad rubbers, just bad bank balances.

Identity disorder was h3 Japan.

@JacekGM 100% agree with your description of nimbus soft. I loved playing with Nimbus Soft. Had it been more durable, I would've always used it. Had to let go just because of this

Edited by ronakvyas86 - 05/20/2017 at 1:43pm