Fake H3 national

Fulanodetal wrote: My question would be if this product is so good, why go through the charade of making it a counterfeit product? why sell it trying to defraud PPL looking for real H3 BS sheets? If its a good product then it would naturally find a market as an original design and brand. Especially at that price!!

I also find this unfortunate because, as haggisv correctly wrote, there is a big risk of getting two very different sheets if they happen to be from different batches. 

Hozuki wrote: Sorry Al, I completely overlooked your inital post. I have a 39 degree version and put it on an OC, and I don't think I could bottom it out at all. It definetly doesn't lack power. But power-wise it was very similar to H2N. But you can also order it in 40 or 41 degree. Quality-wise it is better than the average H2 commercial.

Thanks! I have a sheet of PF4 New going my way as we speak, if it does not fit the bill it is possible I will try out this one before getting another sheet of commercial H3.

I have looked a little into the shop mentioned in OP. The 2nd best seller there is Bluefire M1 copy that also has excellent reviews, and it does not make any sense at all - while I can imagine smb providing a decent H3 alternative, it is clear that reproducing ESN rubbers performance is too much to ask from a fake, so the positive reviews might very well be worthless in the 1st place (see what I said about people who do not care about performance). When I read these reviews, it looked like FdT was right about A LOT of them being fake - the same or similar comments to different rubbers made repeatedly from the same accounts etc. I think a possible explanation for lack of negative reviews may be that very few of these fake rubbers are actually being sold.

Edited by al_111 - 07/31/2017 at 11:52am

This thread has made me come to the realization what Frank Schreiner said about European players was true - that they're very eager to try out new equipment, knockoffs included.

Gomenasai

I have received a similar fake before in place of what was supposed to be sheets of Hurricane 3-50 and Skyline 3-60

" jk92 wrote:

I have received a similar fake before in place of what was supposed to be sheets of Hurricane 3-50 and Skyline 3-60"

"What the seller should have done is give the disclaimer saying that the rubber is not original but its copy - and, in fact, most of these one-day-shops do. Saying that, I would be close to accusing him of fraud if we were speaking about orange sponge commercial H3 that is rather close in the price range, but not the item in OP."
I have received a similar fake before in place of what was supposed to be sheets of Hurricane 3-50 and Skyline 3-60""

I think I need to update this, playing with this rubber for a couple of weeks on a PG-12 and it's an extremely good combo. I like this rubber best from all dhs rubbers, even though it's likely not even a dhs rubber, lol.
The hard topsheet just grabs the plastic ball and loads it up with spin, even when wet.
Sadly I still cannot accurately compare to other H3 variants since I did not buy any sheets for maybe ten years...
I ordered a couple more, best price performance ratio ever.

I´ve bought 2 of these 39º H3 blue sponge rubber, 2 years ago, both were good quality and performed very good, then I tried to boost them, with good results.

The sponge is firmer than 42-44 deg. It feels around 48 at least.
I have ordered various hardnesses, but it didn't feel like one was significantly different in hardness from the others. However, variance in weigth was insane. There can be up to 15 grams difference uncut.

Btw, I just made first place in local championships with this rubber on my FH. I went 7 - 0.
Level wasn't high though. Just up to around 1500-1600 USATT.

I prefer it unboosted. Spin comes mainly from topsheet, not from sponge, so boosting mainly adjusts the speed. Needs a fairly hard, fast, and medium flexy blade.
But you really need a lot of physical effort and good technique to make use of it.