Donic Ovtcharov true carbon vs Viscaria

I have owned both and they are very similar. True Carbon felt a tiny bit faster maybe cause the True Carbon has a thinner top Koto veneer so the alc is closer to the ball. You can easily swap between these 2 without much change in your game.

I've looked at several threads comparing the two and while players say that you can swap between the two, they always seem to go back to the Viscaria (at least when I look at the signatures). Given that I've seen the True Carbon selling for anywhere between at around $90 (less sometimes when on sale), there must be some reason players go back to the Viscaria. Is it only the grip difference or is there more? The speed (frequency tests) being performed on the blades shows a significant difference between the two while all of the Butterfly ALC cousins, do not display this difference.

Is there something that is really different? Maybe feeling? Maybe vibrations? The purchasing actions do not support to difference.

Edited by richrf - 10/17/2017 at 9:18pm

Baal wrote: I went back because I decided the ST handle was not good for me. The ST handle was the onlyvreason I tried it in tbe first place.

Thanks Baal. I remember you stating your reason on another thread. But there were others who switched back for some unknown reason. I searched really long for OTC users and I don't think I found one. Those who said they were satisfied had Viscaria or some other Butterfly ALC in their signature. This is what gave me pause especially with the large size differential. Viscaria is not even available in the U.S until early Nov. Just wondering if something is missing.

I am satisfied with my zjk alc.. I sold my OTC after 3 games..

I'm pretty close to switching to the OTC. I am actually surprised that it is stiffer than the Viscaria and Boll Spirit in tests despite being thinner.  For me, my Boll Spirit is heavier and has a straight handle that I have made a flare with grip tape but I still prefer the OTC when I grip it.  I prefer the thickness of the Boll Spirit and suspect that if I had it in flare, I might like it more.  And the Boll Spirit feels more "solid" but that might be weight.  But when I play with both, my play is similar, the lighter OTC just makes my over the table attacks better and the heavier TBS makes me feel more confident playing away from the table.  But again, both are solid blades.  Also I think there is a Butterfly quality perception thing.  

NextLevel wrote: I'm pretty close to switching to the OTC. I am actually surprised that it is stiffer than the Viscaria and Boll Spirit in tests despite being thinner.  For me, my Boll Spirit is heavier and has a straight handle that I have made a flare with grip tape but I still prefer the OTC when I grip it.  I prefer the thickness of the Boll Spirit and suspect that if I had it in flare, I might like it more.  And the Boll Spirit feels more "solid" but that might be weight.  But when I play with both, my play is similar, the lighter OTC just makes my over the table attacks better and the heavier TBS makes me feel more confident playing away from the table.  But again, both are solid blades.  Also I think there is a Butterfly quality perception thing.

Edited by bokai - 10/18/2017 at 12:00am

It is not usually faster. It is the best choice for someone lookinf for a ST Viscaria.

Baal wrote: It is not usually faster. It is the best choice for someone lookinf for a ST Viscaria.

interesting, do u prefer viscaria or OTC? and why?

oh right! Ahhh cant read today ><. Thanks!

I have both blades and I can clearly feel the difference between the two. The Viscaria is much more crisp and has more flex while the OTC is very soft and stiff. My OTC feels more like a 7 ply limba blade. Also, I tested both with MX-P and the OTC was not nearly as spinny.

bokai wrote: Baal wrote: The two I got were much heavier than Patrick's. Closer to 90 g in one case. A 79 g OTC would not be vood IMHO. I completely agree with you. I want my blades to be between 88-92 grams. Anything less or more feels strange to me. I use short pips, so I wouldnt want such a heavy bat hahaha. One of the reasons I consider OTC is because of the straight handle aswell. I also wondered how it will go with andro blowfish+ short pips.

The OTC that TT11 weighed for me was 82gr but I think they said they have heavier ones. You can write to them and ask if they have one in the range you are looking for.