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ericd937 
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Any suggestions? T80?
Edited by ericd937 - 12/07/2017 at 9:30am |
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Current Setup: TBS FH T80/BH D80
Official USATT Rating 1815 Current estimated level: 1800-1900. |
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AMonteiro
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Posted: 12/07/2017 at 9:02am |
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Even older generation ESN rubbers like Acuda S1, Genius, Hexer, Rakza 7 are faster and spinnier compared to Rozena.
If you want to keep BTY, T80 is a good choice.
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Posted: 12/07/2017 at 9:03am |
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T05 is the obvious choice imho.
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ericd937
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Posted: 12/07/2017 at 9:19am |
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I've played T05 before, I didn't really care for it. T25fx was okay for me, but I played that one three years ago when I was at a different level. T64 was also okay for me, but the sheet I tried of that was a really old used one that I got for free. I don't think it accurately represented how a new sheet would play.
I was also considering Stiga Genesis. I had a hit with a club-mates Genesis S, but the blade it was on made it hard for me to judge the rubber accurately. |
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Current Setup: TBS FH T80/BH D80
Official USATT Rating 1815 Current estimated level: 1800-1900. |
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ohwell
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You can probably find someone with T05/80 at your club and ask to try their setup to get a feel for it. But if you're not committed to Butterfly there's a slew of rubbers that should be up to the task without the price tag. I like Xiom Vega Pro a lot for this. But most major brands have a few options that could work extremely well for you.
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Agreed. My recommendation is Tibhar Genius. |
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+1 on the Genius, especially good for BH.
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ericd937
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Posted: 12/07/2017 at 11:23am |
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I'm not committed to Butterfly. Any brand is ok.
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Current Setup: TBS FH T80/BH D80
Official USATT Rating 1815 Current estimated level: 1800-1900. |
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Tenergy 80 =/= Rozena with faster sponge
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T64 would probably be closer to rozena in terms of hardness but with more speed and spin from BTY, more speed than spin though. You can also try evolution EL-P which is a bit harder overall, but faster than rozena. T05 is significantly harder feel, obviously spinnier and faster than rozena. T80 is also harder but not as spinny as T05 and feels a little more tame IMO. Depends what overall rubber hardness you prefer. Many choices out there.
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Xiom Vega Europe is one of the top five rubbers sold in Japan and there is a good reason. Great spin and speed and control. JoeB
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+1 on vega europe, very good rubber for an even better price.
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I disagree. On Timo Boll ZLC the Vega Europe is a good control rubber, but it lacks power and spin is merely average. Genius is vastly superior.
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Victas V>15 Extra is similar to t80. Good rubber. low throw, quite fast, spinny
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Evo EL-P +1, played with Rozena before and found that the bite on the ballistic not as good and it didn’t spin as much. But Evolution EL-P is just right in this, it is slightly spinnier than Rozena and its about the same speed. But the bite is much better.
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Posted: 12/08/2017 at 9:26am |
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Glued Sriver.
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Posted: 12/08/2017 at 10:11am |
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Lol... sriver and mark v you can buy nowadays are very different than 7 years ago so tenergy 80 it is a better option than any glued rubber. |
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Rozena is not sooo bad. It is made for a different strategy.
T05 = fantastic spin, but also bad control in the passive game. Rozena = less (but enough) spin, but much easier to handle and less spin-sensitive. In my eyes 70% of all T05 users would play better (more successfull) with rubbers like Rozena, Karis M, Acuda Blue P1 or similar rubbers. If you want a similar feeling, but more spin and speed, T80 is a good choice. Edited by Magic_M - 12/08/2017 at 1:04pm |
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Posted: 12/08/2017 at 1:20pm |
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what about r47
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Posted: 12/08/2017 at 1:22pm |
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vega europe more control than baracuda? |
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Posted: 12/08/2017 at 5:21pm |
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Most definetly yes.
Edit: But if you are having control issues with baracuda, then Genius is your best option. I will also be switching back from Baracuda to Genius on BH for the remaining season, because of better control. Edited by Hozuki - 12/08/2017 at 6:14pm |
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Has anyone tried both Genesis S and Rozena?
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I was teaching some 10 year old kids with yasaka extra and baracuda 1.8mm it was a tad bouncy for them I m looking for something soft like sriver fx but modern not bouncy and some control some rubbers are too fast at 1.8mm. durability is another must . |
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My coach is suggesting Genesis S. ??? Has anyone played both Rozena and Genesis S?
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Posted: 12/09/2017 at 9:58am |
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genesis s is even slower and tackier
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I see. In that case, Vega Europe would be a good idea. |
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Posted: 12/10/2017 at 10:18am |
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thanks hozuki for your advice! |
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You are welcome. |
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