Thickness of Stiga Allround Classic

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doraemon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 05/14/2007 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1738	Post Options Post Reply Quote doraemon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Thickness of Stiga Allround Classic Posted: 03/05/2018 at 9:02pm
	Just curious, This blade was initially produced in the 60s and if I recall correctly, tabletennisdb stated that the thickness is 5.1 mm only. That can't be right, because I think it must be at least 5.4 - 5.5 mm (my estimate only, because thinner than that, it will vibrate too much). My own Allround CR WRB is surprisingly 5.7 mm thick. What is the thickness of NEW Stiga Allround Classic? Did they increase the thickness to cope with bigger ball? Many thanks. P.S. The reason I ask is that my friend (not a TT player) wants to buy a beginner blade for his 7 year old son. I am thinking of giving him either Stiga AC or Donic Appelgren Allplay as a present. But I am trying to make sure that it is still suitable for modern practice and games.
	Blade : Just wood FH : black rubber BH : red rubber

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monkey401 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 07/08/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 156	Post Options Post Reply Quote monkey401 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/06/2018 at 2:23pm
	I recently played with a stiga allround Classic (bought new last year). It is still applicable for the new ball for beginner and intermediate players. Blade is very good and versatile for learning the game. Highly recommended. Edited by monkey401 - 03/06/2018 at 2:24pm

firetack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 10/18/2006 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 950	Post Options Post Reply Quote firetack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/06/2018 at 3:13pm
	I have 3 and they are all 5.1-5.2 , the weights varied 70g,76g,78g,strangely the 70g one is stiffer with cleaner vibrations.There is massive variation in weights maybe the Appelgren is more consistant Edited by firetack - 03/06/2018 at 3:58pm
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IanMcg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 05/27/2011 Location: Somehere Status: Offline Points: 1151	Post Options Post Reply Quote IanMcg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/06/2018 at 4:36pm
	I've owned a couple and loved them, but they always develop cracks in the neck about a year in. Maybe it's because I hit hard? I'm currently using an Allround Evolution and I'm liking it a lot, just a hair stiffer with a tad less vibration but still very much an Allround.

doraemon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 05/14/2007 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1738	Post Options Post Reply Quote doraemon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/06/2018 at 4:51pm
	Thank you for all your information. I think that 5.1-5.2 mm is too thin for a blade. I think I will choose Appelgren Allplay for his son or probably Allround Evolution, depending on the weight.
	Blade : Just wood FH : black rubber BH : red rubber

Fraziel66 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08/28/2017 Location: Glasgow Status: Offline Points: 53	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fraziel66 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/07/2018 at 6:46am
	It's an excellent blade for a beginner or advanced beginner. Flexible and fairly soft feeling. Good to learn strokes as the blade won't do the work for you. It does have a slightly hollow popping noise which i don't like but i can live eieth it.You get lots of vibration , as you should get as a beginner. The thing i like best though are the Stiga Handles. By far the best on the market imo. The legend flared is a great size and about the biggest available. The Applegren would certainly be a good alternative but not necessarily better. Another good choice is Butterly Grubba ALL+ although thats more of a power allround. Both the AC and Appelgren are ALL rated. lots of soft feel good beginner blades around.

pitigoi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 06/19/2015 Location: Illinois, USA Status: Offline Points: 257	Post Options Post Reply Quote pitigoi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/07/2018 at 8:45am
	At paddlepalace you can select blades/chart view and see the estimated thickness. I have called and asked for particular thickness and got a Stiga Allround WRB 5.3mm. Paddlepalace does not seal blades though, and my WRB got a 1mm wide 5mm long splinter when I changed rubbers.

doraemon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 05/14/2007 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1738	Post Options Post Reply Quote doraemon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/07/2018 at 11:37pm
	Thank you for additional comments above.
	Blade : Just wood FH : black rubber BH : red rubber

Taijibulldog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Beginner Joined: 05/27/2017 Location: MARYLAND Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote Taijibulldog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/16/2018 at 1:49pm
	I'll just add that i think it's no need to even deal with the all round blades at all. many moons ago when i was looking to buy my first real paddles i felt the all round blades would be best. Yes, they are good for teaching fundamentals and control which s what a beginner needs. Yet, with all that said i would bypass allround blades in favor of off- minus blades. Why because any respectable off- will give all the control a novice will ever need while at the same time making it an easier transition to more advanced play. by choosing rubber wisely to include thickness of 1.0/1.5 that is the best route for the money and effort which makes it so you won't need to buy another blade as his/anyone's skills improve. i have spent a great deal of time and effort figuring out basic things like bat and rubber choices to suit the player. but growth of that player is what many ignore and their recommendations routinely are ltd. to where the player is and ignore where they could be in a relatively short time with proper training/coaching. both ways work, but the standard way cost more money, doesn't offer any serious advantages and makes it so transitions of skill and equipment are more complicated. peace butterfly primoric my old blade is my top choice for weight, control, durabilty/quality. yes, i still have my original one. unfortunately they are almost 75$ now. smdh I'd look for blades like that after mkt. that aren't being sold to make big profits on the sold called vintage mkt. there are quite a few choices in the off - area that are less costly for sure and i'd seek them out and not rush to buy until u have done your homework. me personally though. i will spend more on quality that i only have to buy once rather than less and have to buy twice and not be satisfied with the short term results or long term goals. ijs
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monkey401 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 07/08/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 156	Post Options Post Reply Quote monkey401 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/16/2018 at 11:04pm
	Doraemon, if you’re interested I have a like new stiga allround evolution (flared legend) 84g. Played with it less than 50 min. $33 shipped within USA. Pm me if interested.

doraemon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 05/14/2007 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1738	Post Options Post Reply Quote doraemon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/18/2018 at 7:52am
	Thank you for the offer Monkey401. I already have Allround Evolution AN 87 grams. So l chose Allplay instead to be combined with Mark V. It seems all right for now. Edited by doraemon - 03/18/2018 at 7:53am
	Blade : Just wood FH : black rubber BH : red rubber

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