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LUCKYLOOP
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Posted: 03/24/2018 at 8:18pm |
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Super Simple Method
Pre prep cut rubber large where it hangs well over edges 1 Glue Blade do not glue rubber 2 Let dry 20 minutes 3 Roll up rubber leaving label at bottom exposed 4 Align label at bottom press to attach 5 Roll rubber upward press down with fingers any bubbles 6 Let dry one hour then do final cut |
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Hntr Fl / 4H & BH Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0
Yinhe T-2 / 4H Xiom Sig Pro 2 2.0 BH Xiom Omega IV Elite Max Gam DC / 4H DHS Hurricane 8 39deg 2.1 BH GD CC LP OX HARDBAT / Hock 3 ply / Frenshp Dr Evil OX |
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Veet
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Hello,
I managed glue the OX rubber, by myself.. Here's how it went...
So, it was not all smooth sailing, but the end-result, I think was pretty successful. Thanks everyone for the pointers... I'll try posting some pics, later (One I figure-out how to)... |
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henningf
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I like to do it this way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msPB2FJCMs4
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firetack
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The only time I had any splintering with a Defplay is if there are any dings around the edges where the Basswood central ply becomes exposed and can come away a bit when pealing rubbers off,the outer Anigre ply is really smooth and not prone to splintering but it won't hurt to have a thin coat of sealant ,it's more important to protect the edges of this blade Imo
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Black Balsa 3.0 fh/tenergy 05 1.9 388d ox
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LUCKYLOOP
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I use very light layers, doesn't change the characteristics of my blades, XVT or others. |
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Veet
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Not Available in India
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kakapo
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Use hardwax oil from the brand Clou
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Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm
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Veet
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I hear, that sealing/lacquering the blade tends to, noticeably change the way the blade plays, especially with OK LPs. Some people even mention that it reduces spin-continuation (Please note : I say spin-continuation, and not spin-reversal .. ) ... To what extent is that true ?
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LUCKYLOOP
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As long as the blade faces are sealed properly, there are no problems removing rubber. |
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kakapo
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I had 2 blades ruined because of these sheets. Also, it depends of the type of outply, some woods are very fragile. Also, for some who decide to go for the sheets, I would recommend to seal first the concerned side of the blade with hardwax oil from clou. A thin layer is enough, it won't change the blade property and it will protect the blade. Much easier to take off the glue sheet without hurting the blade, especially when the sheet is torn when you change LP rubbers. But...I prefer by far using glue
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Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm
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Veet
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Kind of the same method as Haggsiv's, except that you create a bit of stiffness in the OX LP, using masking tape, whereas Haggisv does that using a Gluesheet.... hmm.. I do have some low-tack paper masking tape lying around...
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firetack
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Hi,I have had problems gluing Dawei ox lps in the past,the thin Base sheet is notorious for bubbling and creasing.I found a simple way to prevent these 2 problems,I applied 3 strips of 1 inch low tack paper masking tape across the pips side of the rubber to add a bit of stiffness to the sheet,1 across the centre, 1 at the top and one near to the info bar still gives enough flex to get the rubber on,when I did this the result was perfect!
I found it best to reduce the tack on the tape to prevent it pulling the pips when removing,this was done by sticking the tape to my arm 3 or 4 times before applying...good luck whatever method you choose Edited by firetack - 03/17/2018 at 4:54am |
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Black Balsa 3.0 fh/tenergy 05 1.9 388d ox
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Veet
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Sounds too easy to be true.... anyway, I will certainly try this one ... link bookmarked.... Many Thanks!!
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mts388
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That is what I do. It's so easy. |
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cole_ely
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I used to put a can like green beans or corn sharp side down on each corner to keep it under control. Unfortunately you picked a super hard pip for your first try. The base sheet can be like a balloon
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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b
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haggisv
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This is how I do it... I've glued hundreds like this, works like a charm:
http://tabletennis-reviews.com/gluing-a-long-pimple-rubber-without-sponge-a-novel-new-way/ |
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mts388
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It's so simple using a glue sheet. Never a mistake and you can reuse the glue sheets. |
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mhnh007
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Use glue sheet, or for El Cheapo, use the clear plastic sheet backing of the tuned H3, or BW2 (or something similar), apply some WB glue on it, then use it like a glue sheet to hold the OX. Works wonderfully.
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jt99sf
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I'm talking about pips w/o sponge.
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
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skip3119
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====================== For inverted rubber with sponge, that's true. This thread is about LP OX (long-pips without sponge.) (I ruined my LP OX rubber using rubber cement.) (For inverted rubber with sponge, using rubber cement works every time - never had a problem.)
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jt99sf
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I've only used rubber cement. Just apply and let it rest for 10 minutes, never an issue.
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
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skip3119
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============= Still, use water-based glue only. Rubber cement will ruin it.
Edited by skip3119 - 03/16/2018 at 4:27pm |
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qpskfec
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Someone posted this tip a while ago.
Take the new uncut LP sheet and staple it at all 4 corners to the cardboard that came with the packaging. You can now handle the LP rubber similar to the way you would glue inverted. |
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Veet
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I agree - Practice Makes Perfect... However, rubbers are not readily available in India, and the ones that are, don't come cheap...
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LUCKYLOOP
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Acetone will unshrivel all those long pips OX without damaging them. |
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LUCKYLOOP
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Yes, occasionally, around edges comes loose, then just hold back, reglue blade there, fixed. I play with all my long pips like that. |
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Yinhe T-2 / 4H Xiom Sig Pro 2 2.0 BH Xiom Omega IV Elite Max Gam DC / 4H DHS Hurricane 8 39deg 2.1 BH GD CC LP OX HARDBAT / Hock 3 ply / Frenshp Dr Evil OX |
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wlhk
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There is another new way to glue ox lp. You can try using InnoGlue, it is available on Amazon if you are in USA. What I do is I use a small piece of sponge instead of the little blue scoop provided. I dip the sponge to spread a thin layer of InnoGlue on the ox lp. You don't need to apply on the racket at all.
Then the excess InnoGlue, I am just wipe it along the top of the glue bottom so that all the excess glue will go back into the bottle.
Then I will wait for the glue to dry over night as opposed to the recommended 15 to 20 minutes by the supplier. Then next day, you can apply the ox onto the blade. The good thing with InnoGlue is that you can remove the ox lp and attache to another racket(s) numerous time without apply additional glue. |
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Joo Se Kev
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Here's a tip I don't see mentioned as much: PRACTICE!
Get a couple cheap chinese pips that you don't really care about and practice your technique on an old blade. Even the most fail-proof of methods can get bungled when the stakes are high and you're nervous cause it's your first time. Lord knows I've got my own graveyard of shriveled OX pips, mangled beyond repair. Take the pressure off yourself and do a few practice runs first.
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kakapo
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I do the same way that is use in those videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdoqhxnMkro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CokTmyOkQ04 With white glue, without solvent, there are less danger getting any bubbles after gluing but anyway, should you have some bubbles, use a little needle, make little holes where the bubble is and it will go away. |
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jt99sf
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I put a slight heavier coat of glue on the blade, after applying the rubber - put some books on the top overnight.
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
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