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richrf ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 06/02/2009 Location: Stamford Status: Offline Points: 1522 |
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Hi,
I'm playing at a local University and sometimes I'm asked for recommendations for more inexpensive rubbers and blades. Anyone have any experience with the new Gambler Mech-Tek Predator rubber? Reactivity, grippiness, durability? Thanks. Edited by richrf - 05/06/2018 at 11:29am |
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vanjr ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 08/19/2004 Location: Corpus Christi Status: Offline Points: 1368 |
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I now have it on my FH in black. Good grip. Not overly reactive to spin. Not real high rebound. I have not had it long enough for any idea about durability, but it does not look like a fragile topsheet. I also think it is not particularly heavy. I like it. No significant tackiness. It is a good deal at 14 dollars.
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richrf ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 06/02/2009 Location: Stamford Status: Offline Points: 1522 |
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Thanks! Would you say it is closer to a basic Mark V type rubber, or a tuned rubber like a Tensor? Thanks again. Edited by richrf - 05/06/2018 at 9:08pm |
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JimT ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/26/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 14602 |
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Almost entire new Gambler line - Zero, Big Gun, Mech-Tek - are relatively medium speed rubbers. I think it's best they are used on harder blades, not on soft ones. Unless you play close to the table and want more control on your fast, powerful shots. |
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richrf ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 06/02/2009 Location: Stamford Status: Offline Points: 1522 |
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Thanks JimT. Would you then place then inbetween Mark V or Sriver rubber and something like a Karis with linear characteristics and little speed our spin dynamics? Edited by richrf - 05/06/2018 at 9:09pm |
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vanjr ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 08/19/2004 Location: Corpus Christi Status: Offline Points: 1368 |
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It is not a tensor, but a definite step beyond sriver/markV. Harder sponge. They are pretty linear.
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rocketman222 ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 01/06/2007 Location: Walnut Creek,CA Status: Offline Points: 1152 |
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I have it on a test blade with LP on the other side, this is a crazy good rubber, I will go as far as saying that this a super cheap alternative to Andro Rasanter R47.
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richrf ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 06/02/2009 Location: Stamford Status: Offline Points: 1522 |
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Thanks everyone. Interesting comments. I may buy a sheet you see if I can recommend it to some of the students next term. I expected to hear that it was a fairly ordinary rubber. If it has some extra dynamics it would be great to have more reviews. Seems like a deal.
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cole_ely ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/16/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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It's pretty good.
Call it a cross between focus3 and outlaw but better. Very good qc. |
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piligrim ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 06/21/2011 Location: Canada Status: Online Points: 5307 |
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only Zeropong sell it?
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cole_ely ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/16/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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It's their brand. Several sell it including me, but it all goes through ZP.
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cole_ely ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/16/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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My concern is that the black will be out of stock in a week. That's the typical pattern when a zp rubber gets hot, then how will the second batch be?
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piligrim ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 06/21/2011 Location: Canada Status: Online Points: 5307 |
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they charge for shipping to Canada more then rubber cost. it does't make sense. how much you charge for shipping to Canada? |
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Thanks Cole. How would you characterize the dynamics of the rubber relative to Mark V or a Tensor. Is it tuned or does it need tuning? Thanks! Edited by richrf - 05/07/2018 at 1:55pm |
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Mech-tek is faster and lively than Mark 5 and Sriver. More spin, more speed. Medium arc similar to T80. I am using it on BH. Good for push, block and drive.
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richrf ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 06/02/2009 Location: Stamford Status: Offline Points: 1522 |
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Sounds like a very smart strategy. If indeed the rubber offers more desirable dynamics than Mark V or Sriver at half the cost, it is definitely a good alternative. The only major disadvantage would be replacement if there isn't another run. Anyone know of the cut and/or uncut weight? Edited by richrf - 05/07/2018 at 2:00pm |
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Could you elaborate on this? As someone stated above, Gambler did release 3 rubbers simultaneously - Zero, Big Gun, and Mech-Tek similar to Yinhe.
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ZP has been on that 14 dollar price point for a long time. Inflation alone should have added something.
Cole is of course right. The key will be how will the second batch play.
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cole_ely ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/16/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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I charge actual shipping. They've changed all international shipping so that unless it's documents it has to go as a package. I think that means anything's going to be $15. It's that up to 2 lb. There might be a lower rate for one sheet if it's under 4 grams or rather 4 ounces I should say. To answer another question, I just weighed a Mech Tech Red 2.1 at 62g |
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I tried to buy one rubber and got $15 for shipping Sub-Total: $14.00 Zone Rates (Shipping to CA): $15.00 Total: $29.00 |
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From zeropong?
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While I agree those shipping costs are too high (maybe ZP needs a Canadian distributor-what say ye Megaspin and Tom?) if you think that you got a rubber worth 30 dollars (and I think that is a reasonable argument depending on how long it lasts which is still too early to tell) it is still an OK deal. Better deal yet if you combine it with more rubbers or some of the FLC blades or my newest favorite gambler vector hinoki blade. edit-megaspin does sell gambler rubbers. this should be settled quickly with an email/phone call or two.
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cole_ely ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/16/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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it's going to be 15 no matter where you buy it (outside of canada) I would imagine, because that's the actual cost of shipping
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for $30 I can get Bluefire with free shipping ![]() |
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JimT ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/26/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 14602 |
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Yes, but if some Canadian store/dealer would sell Gambler rubbers, the S&H overhead would be much lower since he/she would buy and ship them in bulk. Are there any decent Canadian TT stores which could be asked to carry Gambler brand? |
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Didn't ppgear sell it when Arthur owned it?
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Never played with Karis. They are certainly a bit slower than, say, Outlaw, or Palio Aeolus (or AK47). I guess you can boost them up to get a better speed but then what's the point, you could do the same with Sriver or Mark V and many others. How about weight of Mech-Tek? Big Gun was pretty heavy. Zero with the lightest sponge (regular) was relatively lighter, but I am not sure about Mech-Tek. |
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I m thinking if this rubber is spinny and soft to put 2 in a ALL blade and have a light raquet |
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cole_ely ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/16/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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The 2.1 is like 62g
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